Hi Don:
I see that is another synth that needs to be purchased from AI Squared.
Where to you find the settings to set the cap pitch rate?
It is not in the WindowEyes Control panel for any of the other synths I have
looked at.
Rick USA
-----Original Message-----
From: Don H [mailto:lmdd...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:23 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Caps Pitch Control

If you use the Decaccess 32 syn you do have pitch for caps.

On 3/6/2015 9:18 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote:
> Hi Louis: You are right about individual letters being more and less
> recognizible as caps via pitch in WindowEyes.
> I am not sure if the cap pitch is a standard feature of a synth but I know
> both jaws and NVDA have settings to adjust the cap pitch up or down.
> They also have 0 lag time for this feature as far as I can tell.
> I am currently using the beeper visual basic script developed by some user
> who also likely had this problem with WindowEyes.
> It is not a good solution but the best work-around for this WindowEyes
> problem I have found so far.
> There might be a way to script an actual pitch change but I really don't
> like using let alone createing  visual basic scripts to run on something I
> want to be as high performing as my screen reader.
> So unless Aaron and the guys get around to adding this to match NVDA and
> JAWS features we areSOL.
> Just use the beeper app and have allot of tylenol on hand.
> If I can turn the volume downon the beep it might be ok but I sure don't
> look forward to 10 hours a day of that noise while trying to do computer
> design, programming and testing debugging while using camel casing
variables
> and objects.
>   So that is the state of affairs as I find them so far.
> I have other options for programming and have been using them in place of
> WindowEyes more and more over the past year or so.
> I had hoped for this and some other performance enhancements in the 9.1
> release but it seems this feature was passed over by the AI Squared staff.
> Rick USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gosselin_louis [mailto:gosselin_lo...@myfairpoint.net]
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 9:44 AM
> To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Chris Grabowski'
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> I, too, have found that the elevation of the voice pitch was
unsatisfactory,
> but it's also true that the elevation of the pitch seems to depend on
which
> letter is the one  capitalized.  I'm sure that somewhere in the lines of
> code that controls the synthesizer, there has to have been a parameter
that
> causes the pitch to shift, so it has to be possible to change that
> parameter.  Perhaps it would take the owners of Eloquence to do it, but
I'm
> betting it wouldn't take a whole lot of effort to accomplish it.  Do you
> think it might be worth writing to them?  Maybe there's even something the
> end-user might access with some direction from the company.  You never
know
> for sure unless you ask.
>
> Louis Gosselin
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+gosselin_louis=myfairpoint....@lists.window-eyes.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 9:12 AM
> To: 'Chris Grabowski'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Chris: OK so WindowEyes cant set the cap pitch as can other screen
> readers.
> This is not a good thing.
> I will try the beeper script but I don't like running ever more and more
vb
> scripts just to have basic screen reader functions available.
> I will let you know how it turns out.
> Rick USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Grabowski [mailto:cgrabow...@aisquared.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:50 AM
> To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> It is not possible to change the level of pitch for capital letters.
>
> We offer the 60 day evaluation  version so people can have access to
> everything Window-eyes has to offer, including the premium synthesizers.
>
> If the pitch  change isn't enough, perhaps installing the third party cap
> beeper app.
>
> https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/Download/?scriptid=1216
>
> This makes a beep  when you move across a capital letter.  You can even
use
> a different sound if you don't like the beep the author included.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> Window-Eyes Product Support
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:02 AM
> To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
> Subject: Caps Pitch Control
>
> Hi Steve: There should be a way to control the pitch change for capital
> letters me thinks.
>
> I havent found it in WindowEyes Settings yet though.
>
> Some speech operations are still slightly sluggish even with Eloquence
which
> I have to attribute to WindowEyes itself from past experience.
>
> That said I am asking about how to improve the speech settings including
the
> pitch change for capitalization - I am pretty sure that is doable but not
> sure WindowEyes has a setting to do it, we will see.
>
> I just dropped 40 bucks to get Eloquence so I hope WindowEyes takes
> advantage of its feature set.
>
> The slight lag times are annoying but not so bad that I will dump
WindowEyes
> all be it I am disapointed so far with WindowEyes performance with a hot
> synth like Eloquence.
>
> But, as mentioned, I will ask on list how to tweak settings to see if I
can
> get things working well enough to not be a constant hassle using
WindowEyes.
>
> Wish I could have given WindowEyes and Eloquence a glowing congratulations
> out of the box but it is what it is.
>
> Rick USA
>
>
>
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