Well, what I was trying to say is that if you looked for a comparable pc
without expensive software included, you could usually get it for a better
price (or get the vendor of the one you were going to buy to give you a
discount for not taking the expensive software).  It's not that they won't
load it on, it's that they won't give it to you for free.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Pamela Dominguez [mailto:geo...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 1:30 PM
To: Chip Orange
Subject: Re: SMA or free version

Computers used to come with programs like office, excel, and various things 
like that.  The computer I got in 2000 also came with a scanner, and a 
subwoofer system, and all kinds of software.  Now, you just get the 
computer.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:57 AM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: SMA or free version

No Gary is just plain incorrect there ... no machine I've ever found comes
with a full working copy of Office; it's always a limitted demo (how would
MS survive giving it's flagship product away for free?).

I suppose there are retailers who will include it in their bundled price,
but if you do some price comparisons you'll see they're charging you for it.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+chip.orange=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:02 AM
To: gary melconian; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: SMA or free version

Sorry, that's not necessarily so.  I didn't have any form of office on my
computer when I bought it from Dell.  I figured I might try outlook, so I
called them and asked them to send me office.  When I got it, it turns out
that they sold me a student edition, with no outlook in it.  But I didn't
know there was no office in this computer until I went to view some of my
documents that were on the old hard drive that I got the guy to put in from
the old computer.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: gary melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:45 PM
To: dlh...@centurylink.net ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'john s'
Subject: RE: SMA or free version

I don't think so they cut off the folks who wer on the payment plan  for the
free version to cut those costs . thats how I see it. I know a few friends
of mine who wer in this situation. So I don't think that the office approach
is a wrong thing.it gives folks the opportunity to own both what's wrong
about that one. If you're a payin customer of fs and you want to try out gw
you have that  choice wwithout having to invest in the full copy.  Almost
every machine now a days comes with some version of office, so that excuse
that you don't have office does not fly.

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