I debated whether or not to weigh in on this, but as someone who has
literally grown up with window-eyes, I got my first computer in 1997 at age
10 with WE 2.0 on floppy discs, I felt that 20 years of using this reader
day in and day out warranted some sort of response.

First, a recent story. I had a video driver issue with WE and the latest
build. I couldn't fix it. I did everything to tech support person said that
they would do. He remoted into the machine, no luck. I reformatted the hard
drive, which I had planned to do at some oint to clean things up, and the
driver issue is fixed, knock on wood. I bring all of this up because I said,
point blank, "I have had this issue before and Aaron or Steve sat down with
me and we figured it out." The support person's response was, "those guys
aren't here anymore, so ..." 
So, it sounds like they have laid off the programmers and devs of
window-eyes, holding onto the most basic personelle to answer the most basic
of questions. Mine was a big curve ball, at least that's the way it felt. 

So, we'll see, I intend to hold on until the last because I cannot afford
JFW, my Voc Rehab case is closed, and not sure about learning a new screen
reader. Or then there's NVDA, free, but confusing for me. Maybe it's easier
than I think it is to learn the structure. 
All for now, just my quick thoughts.
Thanks, Dave
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Subject: Re: Where are the informed comentators?

Plans to cling to my current zt fusion and will refuse to upgrade.  The zt
we combo works so well for me.


"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Feb 23, 2017 1:53 PM, "Loy via Talk" <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

> I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I wonder if VFO even knows 
> what they are going to do with Window Eyes.  I was told that the 
> current version of Fusion is powered by Window Eyes, but the next 
> release will be powered by JAWS. ZoomText 11, just released says it 
> works great with JAWS but no mention of WE. I asked support if ZT 11 
> would work with WE as well as ZT 10.1, the support person said 
> management had not told them. Then later I got an email that said it
should.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk
>   To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>   Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:07 PM
>   Subject: Where are the informed comentators?
>
>
>   Hi all.
>
>   List member comments regarding VFO support once again raise the question
>   as to the future of Window-Eyes.  For those who do not like this thred -
>   hit delete "now."
>
>   But for me - the burning question for sometime has been the absence of
>   critical, informed insider comment.  We are in need of an informed
>   adaptive technology press, which by way of blog posts, interviews with
>   leaders and knowledgeable opinion expression, shed light on what is
>   happening in this access technology market place.
>
>   I have not seen evidence of anyone running an in-depth interview with
>   the executives of VFO.  Neither have I seen inciteful comment on VFO's
>   behaviours in areas such as customer relationships, product research and
>   development, and the appropriateness of private equity funding of access
>   technology.
>
>   Based solely on the evidence i've gleaned from personal observation and
>   the comments of fellow list members - VFO has no intention of
>   rejuvenating Window-eyes.  If the intentions were different, the"other
>   software" option that people have referred to when talking about
>   telephone support would say "Window-Eyes.  VFO has not contacted me as a
>   payed license holder to let me know of new offers and fancy tricks to
>   have me spend more money.  FS Podcasts are for the purposes of FS - 
> not VFO.
>
>   Oh well: time to put on the armour against the flaming I might get.
>
>   Vaughan.
>
>
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