Steve, Those of us who saw earlier prototypes of the Orbit braille display product are not sure how well it will perform in environments where one is editing and the only characters that are changing are the dots that show the cursor. For many, the absence of cursor routing keys is also a significant disadvantage as you have already stated. Some have said that the display is very flexible and could be the basis of a display with more features but still priced lower than what we have come to expect. Time will tell on how that shakes out.
Clearly, this display will work very well in situations where the main function is reading. If a version of this display is distributed free to customers of our National Library Service as are machines for reading audio, it would really have an impact. If it works as well as Josh describes in editing situations, the disadvantage of no cursor routing keys might be easier to overlook. It would require some getting used to, though, by those of us using displays with that feature. Some of these questions won't have answers until we see the final product and know which display drivers will be used for sure. Still, it will almost certainly make braille easier to afford, but it may not eliminate the need for the higher priced displays for many of us. Best regards, Steve Jacobson -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:03 AM To: 'Josh Kennedy' <joshknnd1...@gmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: braille displays and we Hardly useful if you can't move the cursor with the display. I think I'll give the Orbit a miss. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk Sent: 08 April 2017 19:23 To: steve.jacob...@visi.com; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: braille displays and we yes that is correct, there are no cursor routing buttons at all. but that is ok I can do without cursor routing buttons. when you are editing a word, the screen reader tells the orbit20 Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacob...@visi.com> wrote: > Joshua, > > I have not seen the latest prototypes of the Orbit Reader, but I > assume there are still no cursor routing keys, is that correct? You > said you can't use it with Window-Eyes, but have you used it with > other screen readers? If so, what does it do when you have a cursor > that moves when you are editing a word? In other words, how well does > it show that a cursor moved but no characters changed? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:talk-bounces+steve.jacobson=visi....@lists.window-eyes.com] On > Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 11:33 AM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: braille displays and we > > also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not > work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 > emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other > braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the > braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine > signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust > resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype > once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick > it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no > pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor > does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind > of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music > or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and > stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own > or write grade3 shorthand if you want. > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.ja > cobson > %40visi.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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