Yes. Isn't that called cursor tracking? My first braille display was a
keybraille that I had with my dos computer I used on my job. It could only
produce computer braille, and there was no such thing as cursor routing. I
made all my corrections on the computer. My first braille lite didn't have
it either, but you used key strokes to bring the cursor to where you needed
it to be to correct the mistake. Pam.
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From: David via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 12:03 AM
To: Rod Hutton ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Chris G
Subject: Re: braille displays and we
Many of the listers may never remember the "old days" in the assistive
world. But for those of us who does, I for one can still remember the
days when no Braille display had cursor routing capabilities. I can
assure you it is not totally necessary, though quite handy, to have this
functionality.
As for the user who asked how to fetch the cursor, in the middle of a 15
page document, I am not totally sure I get the point in the query. And,
it's been a while since I had a Braille display attached to my WinEyes
machine, so forebare please with me, should my memory fail. Usually,
when moving the Braille display, you could set it to "pull" the cursor
along. At least, that used to be the case in other screen readers.
Meaning, if you move the Braille display to next line, the cursor on the
screen also would move down one line in the document. Now, should you
find something to correct on that line, you would just have to use the
arrows on the computer keyboard to direct the cursor to the correct
position.
Alternatively, instead of moving the Braille Display line by line, you
would set it to follow the cursor, and then do all your moving directly
with the computer arrows. That way, you definitely would have the cursor
handy - at the same line as the display - at any given time. Sure, you
would have to move your hand up on the main keyboard for the next line,
but that simply is a matter of habit. With a small display of something
like 20-30 cells, you might even be better off in doing the reading
altogether with one hand, leaving the other on the arrows of your main
keyboard, thereby eliminating all issues of cursor redirection.
As for how to operate the mouse, by using the braille display - like
when you can click one of the cursor routing keys and have it act as a
mouse-click - I am not sure how they solve this on modern displays
without the cursor-routing keys. My experience with this kind of
displays run way back in the DOS days, when a mouse still had four legs,
peeped, and ran into the nearest hole in the wall when it heard any
mention of a cat. Hence, the issue of operating such a pet on the
computer screen for a blind person, would still be several years ahead
in time. Smiles.
Well, have we all been a bit nostalgic through the years? :D
David
On 4/24/2017 11:34 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Chris,
Perhaps a little app could be written to accomplish this.
A brief glance at the developer's manual leads me to believe it shouldn't
be too difficult.
All the best,
Rod
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I agree,
I wonder what happens if you are panning through a large document and
want to edit a word 5 pages into your document, how does one move the
editing cursor to the place on the braille display?
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Sent: Monday, Apr 24, 2017 6:03 AM EST
To: 'Josh Kennedy'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: braille displays and we
Hardly useful if you can't move the cursor with the display.
I think I'll give the Orbit a miss.
All the best
Steve
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Subject: RE: braille displays and we
yes that is correct, there are no cursor routing buttons at all. but that
is
ok I can do without cursor routing buttons.
when you are editing a word, the screen reader tells the orbit20
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On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacob...@visi.com>
wrote:
Joshua,
I have not seen the latest prototypes of the Orbit Reader, but I
assume there are still no cursor routing keys, is that correct? You
said you can't use it with Window-Eyes, but have you used it with
other screen readers? If so, what does it do when you have a cursor
that moves when you are editing a word? In other words, how well does
it show that a cursor moved but no characters changed?
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
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Subject: braille displays and we
also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not
work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18
emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other
braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the
braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine
signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust
resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype
once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick
it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no
pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor
does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind
of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music
or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and
stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own
or write grade3 shorthand if you want.
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