Hi Brenda, I haven't felt the need to spend any money on JFW, and so my screen readers for Windows are Window-Eyes, NVDA and Narrator. One thing I have found is that Narrator is the best screen reader of the three for configuring settings within Windows 10 since the combination of scan mode on and off are both necessary to navigate and configure the settings screens. As for configuring the OneDrive desktop app, which I really rely on for my online backups, this can only be done using Narrator. Window-Eyes just crashes within OneDrive's settings. Again, here is another example of Narrator working best for Windows settings and technical apps. I think the reason why Window-Eyes crashes and Narrator doesn't is that Windows is being designed using web interfaces and Narrator seems to be at home with these and Window-Eyes struggles to load and speak them. As for web work, using Firefox and Google Chrome, Window-Eyes is still good enough, along with NVDA, but only the latter rarely. As for most other tasks, Window-Eyes still serves me well enough. This includes all of Office, namely, Outlook, Word and Exel, and here I'm referring to the Office 365 versions of each. I work a lot with Winamp, and occasionally Goldwave, as well as other smaller audio utilities for splitting, joining and tagging mp3s, and for these Window-Eyes is fine. Interestingly, I use VMWare Workstation to run windows 7 and 10 virtual machines, and Window-Eyes has no problems speaking all the screens necessary for managing these, even allowing the use of the mouse pointer where the traditional dialog navigation is insufficient. Of course, Narrator works here as well. Smile Well, I guess I could go on and on. Suffice to say that Narrator is a true workhorse necessary to manage Windows, but, in its present form, it may not be up to the challenge of tracking the specific controls for the apps we got used to using, like email software, where scripts were designed to aid productivity. Script support is promised for Narrator in the near future, and we'll see what it offers down the road.
Hth, Rod Sent from Outlook for Windows -----Original Message----- From: Talk <talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com> On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: August 30, 2019 12:41 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Cc: Brenda <bjn...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is there another jaws email list? I would like to know what window eyes users think of narrator with windows 10. I know it is never going to replace window eyes but it sure seems pretty decent, and I’m liking it better than Jaws. Just wondering what other people think. Brenda Dictated and sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Butch Bussen via Talk > <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > > I still use window-eyes and when I can't use n v d a. There a few strange > things that show up with window-eyes that don't with n v d a. Still by far my > favorite. > 73 > Butch > WA0VJR > Node 3148 > Wallace, ks. > > >> On Fri, 30 Aug 2019, Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk wrote: >> >> Joan, you didn't mess up regarding Window-Eyes list. The list is NOT >> ALWAYS ACTIVE. There are occasional posts now and then. >> >> All that aside, many of us are diehards here, not quite ready to >> completely part with Window-Eyes! I'm sure we'll wake it up again if we >> could. >> >> Sincerely, >> Olusegun >> Denver, Colorado >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/butchb%40shellworld.net. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
