2009/9/21 Anthony <o...@inbox.org>:
> Not if you are free to cross the center line, for instance to make a left
> turn across oncoming traffic to turn into a driveway.

I didn't know you can u-turn on most trunk roads legally so why aren't
we showing those as 2 seperate ways?

> My justification was in the fifty million messages that came before this.

Lots of people believe in a god of one sort or another, does it make
it so just because billions of people say there really is a god?

If there is a god because billions of people say so, which one or ones
exist and which don't?

Just because someone expresses an opinion doesn't mean it is true or
the best way to do something, merely an opinion someone has stated and
others agree with.

> I believe we should define our terms based on the purpose we are trying to
> accomplish.  In the case of OSM, I think the purpose is to create maps,
> which are used to inform us how to get from place to place, so the proper
> definition of "way", at least in terms of ways carrying (vehicular,
> pedestrian, bicycle, train) traffic is essentially "A course that is or may
> be used in going from one place to another".

A way is a physical feature, lanes are features of ways, if all the
ways a physically connected to each other than it's a single way
otherwise residential streets are all tagged wrong and we need to redo
them as a way in each direction.

> If you want to treat a residential street with a clearly marked center line
> and no allowance for U-turns as 2 parallel ways, be my guest.  You're
> wasting your time, but I don't see how you're incorrect, as long as you
> connect all the driveways and other locations where people are allowed to
> cross the center line.

In some places you aren't allowed to u-turn except where signed as a
valid u-turn place.

A way is a physical feature physically seperated from other ways,
anything joined is a single way but may have 1 or more lanes, if we
could tag lanes this would be a moot argument and this is what we
should be doing, then people wouldn't be trying to join ways with
relations to describe a physical bridge which is a single physical
object.

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