Matt Amos wrote: > as a preface, some thoughts i had a while ago on the OSM logo > http://www.asklater.com/matt/wordpress/2006/05/infamy/ > > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Robert Martinez <m...@mray.de> wrote: > >> having a real map as part of the logo offers some nice opportunities indeed! >> But there is a number of inherent problems with actual map data inside the >> logo, which is why I discarded any of my designs containing it: >> > > indeed, but i'm of the opinion that a logo should try to represent > what the project is about. maps are surely the most commonly > recognised output of geodata, although they do have problems. > >
I absolutely agree here. I chose to avoid geodata as part of the logo for various reasons, but not because I want to avoid representation. It just does not work inside a logo - that's my conclusion. In my opinion a logo has to reduce the amount of representation to the absolute essence in order to work right. If you are missing the geodata - what about the community aspect to the project? is it less impoprtant? There are tons of things that should be represented, too (maybe even harder to integrate than geodata). I chose to stick to the basic aspect of marking things on a map - in order to find what you want, and don't expect from every designer to go for the same approach. >> - as Steve said already - there is too much going on inside there. >> > > which (and i've pointed this out several times to steve, but he seems > to have forgotten) can be elided at lower levels of detail. > > You always want to avoid having different logos for different scales. When necessary you sometimes have to do so - but it is a hard decision, and if some meaningful content of your logo gets lost that way you really have a problem: If the details in question can dissapear there is no good reason to have them in the first place. >> - then there is the issue with recognition, almost nobody would recognize >> certain elements clearly (as well as a certain outline) >> - scaling makes it impossible to retain the nice details you want to apply >> to the logo >> > > this is a problem for any logo and, as above, it's easy to remove the > fine details and enhance the large-scale details when down-scaling. > it's also easy to reduce the colour depth and introduce colour themes > while keeping the recognisable source elements intact. e.g: > http://www.asklater.com/matt/mag_map_unbusy_reallylowcolour.png > > in my opinion OSM doesn't need a new logo, so much as it needs an > improved logo! :-) > > cheers, > > matt > In my eyes improving means remaking. OSM needs a new logo! I guess we just disagree here :P cheers, Robert _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
