On 4 August 2010 16:27, Richard Fairhurst <rich...@systemed.net> wrote: > The major problem arises when, for example, a NearMap user starts correcting > 300 street names using Google Maps as a source > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/blocks/10); or they make a whole bunch of > fictitious "corrections" a la Charlie Sheen Highway > (http://www.openstreetmap.org/blocks/19). > > There are procedures for when an actual OSM user does this - both > organisational procedures and code written specially for the purpose. But > it's a whole lot harder when there's an intermediary involved. We can't > message the user to say "this is against the terms & conditions you signed > up to" when they signed up to something else, and besides, they're behind a > proxy so they're not messageable anyway. Actually, you can message them, since "they" are us (NearMap). Which is my point; the edits come from us, and we're the ones taking on the necessary responsibility. This is us, as a company aiming to support OSM, trying to remove barriers from contributions; that's going to involve us in spending effort and money in doing so. It's somewhat frustrating to find this being immediately classified in the same box as anonymous editing and/or vandalism.
Anyway; whatever the reasoning, it's clear that there are some who object to this. From our point of view, we need clarity on whether something is acceptable or not (and unfortunately clarity is not always possible to get from a mailing list). I'm going to email the Data Working Group, as per your (Richard's) helpful suggestion and see if I can get a clear response on this. Just noting the additional points made by Emilie and Andrzej; the system we have built tags all edits with information identifying the originating user (in our user database), exactly so that it's easy to find all related edits. We'd happily add any other necessary data to changesets or edits. We are also happy to provide ways to contact users (though we've accepted that would be our responsibility to do that if needed) and we're also able to (and prepared to) block users from editing if need be. Cheers b -- Ben Last Development Manager (HyperWeb) NearMap Pty Ltd _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk