2011/4/30 Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com>: > From: Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> >> While I don't quite understand why the SWG has turned in to the WDWG (Web >> Design Working Group) > SWG has taken this on because the usability of the site is a the primary way > users, new and old, engage with OSM, there are definitely issues with it.
the logo is not an usability topic. > Yet, in yesterday's meeting, we realized that actually doing anything would > be a good start. Yes, looking at the working group log, I realized that. Looks like Steve posted this proposal [1] he found in the web (or someone sent him), and one day later some logos are changed on the front page (some still are old versions). There is two quotes I want to cite from the log: 1. (12:38:15 PM) SteveC: TomH: how is rails 3 coming BTW? (12:39:02 PM) TomH: oh it mostly works, but there's an issue with our multi-part primary keys that is giving me grief (12:39:11 PM) TomH: that's the only thing causing test failures now though 2. "(12:42:31 PM) SteveC: wonderchook: and I have opinions on Fukushima despite not being a nuclear engineer, but it's much better to have people work on design who... know how to design and build things" It's not that I necessarily prefer the old logo above the one that is there at the moment, it is the process I want to point at. Why, if there are apparently no designers in the SWG, should there be such a hurry (and why should they decide at all, maybe setting up a design group would be a better alternative)? The logo change is a big deal, it affects hundreds of sites (also of other people using OSM data and show the logo), stickers, t-shirts, cups, flyers and other print material and maps(!)... Usually changing the logo is not a oneliner, it is an iterative process. Make some proposals, choose the aspects you like, recombine them, ... Like software deployment requires testing (see irc-log above, 1.) the same is valid (in a different way) also for design (2.) and even more for UI-design. Usually the first experiments are not done on the front page. cheers, Martin ______ [1] (12:35:35 PM) SteveC: Go look at this logo: http://raraken.deviantart.com/art/OpenStreetMap-Icon-Logo-174454488?q=gallery:Raraken/6244368&qo=8 _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk