Hi,

On 05/04/11 19:34, Kai Krueger wrote:
Wikipedia has a global foundation responsible for the maintenance of all
databases and then local chapters who provide further support and services
on top of that.

OSM (can) works similar. There is a global database and various local
chapters that provide a lot of additional services and help create a global
community.

The difference is that in Wikipedia, there are actually separate instances of the core database (even if usually on the same infrastructure), and while they all share the same license (which they wouldn't even *have* to do), there are quite some differences. For example the German Wikipedia has introduced a system where an article will not be publicly visible unless approved by someone with special "approver" status, and the German Wikipedia has much stricter rules on what topics are "relevant" and therefore warrant an article than e.g. the English Wikipedia has.

These are decisions which have caused heated discussions, and people have left the project for that; so various "national" Wikipedias decided for themselves whether they wanted these things or not because (I assume) there would have been too much attrition had one tried to decide this for all of Wikipedia at once.

There is only very few things that really depend on the global OSMF. The
running of the core db server, the api and data licensing. Everything else
can and already has been done independently.

The points you mention could be done independently if one really wanted to. For example, there is no technical reason why a slippy map cannot load some tiles from an Australian server and some from an American one. Or, if you prefer that, there is no reason why a centrally operated tile server cannot import American data from American minutely diffs and Australian data from Australian minutely diffs. Of course some things would become a little more complex (mostly technical issues), but others would become easier (mostly social issues). And as for licensing - as long as licenses are compatible in some direction, e.g. with the US database being PD, the Aussie database being CC-BY, and the European database being ODbL, one could perfectly well create tiles from them and so on.

Also - Steve - I dislike it when you say "break up one of the best open source projects", this sounds as if the project would be hurt in the process. Of course if there was reason to believe the project would be worse off after such a devolution, one wouldn't do it. But the way I see it, such a devolution could also bring a lot of advantages over and above what local chapters can bring.

And - Serge - I wasn't joking, but I wasn't recommending this to be put on the agenda for 2012 either. It certainly is a possibility and much as you say that it is interesting to think about what a notary is in various countries, it is also interesting to think about how one would participate in, and use OSM if it were devolved like that.

Bye
Frederik

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