On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Matthias Julius <li...@julius-net.net> wrote:

> I don't know why some people call it a vote at all.  It is a question
> whether or not *you* agree to a contract (the CT) and allow *your*
> contributions to be distributed under ODbL.  Your answer is not binding
> to anyone else.
>
> And when OSMF has enough agreements from contributors they might decide
> to switch licenses.
>

> A question for a real vote could be "Do you think OSM should switch to
> ODbL?"

That vote took place three times. It was done first by the OSMF
members, then the community at large, and then separately by the
community by a different community member who had concerned over the
first poll. Check the archives, you'll find references to them.
They're several years old now.

The poll allowed you to show how much you wanted to didn't want the
ODbL, and the results showed you had polar views on both sides, the
pro-ODbL people had slightly larger numbers, and you had a vast, vast
majority in the middle who don't give a crap about this license issue
and want to just map (they voted "Don't care.").

My frustration at this situation stems from what I perceive as an
unwillingness to acknowledge facts by the opposition. This may seem
harsh but my frustration here is pretty high. When I do present facts,
they're largely glossed over. Anyway, the first the arguments against
the ODbL were that it had no community support, that only the OMSF
wanted it.

It's important to understand why this is an odd critisism in the first
place. First, the LWG is an OSMF working group, and I don't believe it
requires OSMF membership. The majority of members of the LWG are not
on the board. So, the group that took the lead in moving to the ODbL
was not made up by a majority board members, nor did it require OSMF
membership.

Next, about a year later, a vote amongst OSMF membership was
taken.This isn't the board, but the entire membership. Since it was a
decision that was to effect the direction of the OSMF, this makes
sense to me..

Still, shortly thereafter (a couple of months later I believe), the
another poll was taken  of all OSM members, OSMF or not, and the
results were largely the same. This was done on the talk list.

Then someone from the community against the ODbL felt the first poll
may not have been entirely on the up and up, and made their own. And
the results were nearly identical to the first two polls.

> I am curious what the outcome of that would be.

Aggregated from my recollection of all 3 polls, it was that there's
about a 22-28% strong support of the ODbL, a 16-20% view against it,
and the rest don't care.

- Serge

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