here is another important source for shkoder, I got this from the city : http://www.scribd.com/doc/79684542/Sistemi-i-Adresave-Bashkia-Shkoder-08-03-10
this is the third time i uploaded it, I dont know why it keeps disappearing. mike On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Mike Dupont <[email protected]> wrote: > You can contact immap, feel free. > and some other contributors are : > > tpginc.net/gis/albania/albania.php > http://www.archive.org/details/AgimKompaniAlbaniaFiles > http://osmopenlayers.blogspot.com/2010/04/agim-komani-data-online.html > > GNS http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/ > geonames > > and http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kosovo_Prishtina_Streets_Tracing > and some more sources : > http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_1415474252_assetId=ACT-286 > http://www.mapaction.org/map-catalogue/maps.html?deployment_filter=191 > http://www.zki.caf.dlr.de/applications/2010/Albania/181_en.html > http://www.madmappers.com/htm/Ru500kDVD.htm > > > see also > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp > > and http://www.archive.org/details/Prizren_City_Data > > and also we used kosovoguide.org and also inyourpocket.com > > and maps on mapwarper > http://warper.geothings.net/users/436/maps > > here are some of them : > http://warper.geothings.net/uploads/2590/original/shkodra_-24.png > http://warper.geothings.net/uploads/2742/original/swsra9.jpg novo brdo > > also we worked on brod, also using the russian maps and other sources. > > also we have signatures from this guy for creative commons for shkoder. > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-March/003238.html > > mike > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Michael Collinson <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I read your 23 new ideas at http://fosm.ideascale.com/ and wish you luck >> with them. I've now read your blog post. >> >> Once the license change is over, I am looking forward to engaging more with >> Creative Commons. In direct talks we had with them last year, they have >> definitely shifted from their stance that we should not use any SA license >> for data so I am hopeful that we may be able to achieve CC compatibility in >> a few years time. >> >> On the direct issue of contributions, I'll be happy to take on checking >> license compatibility. I've considered approaching iMMAP but felt that might >> be considered rather hostile to you. Can I therefore try and limit asking >> your help to just three questions: >> >> 1) Are you happy if I write to iMMAP and ask their permission to use their >> data in OSM? >> >> 2) Are there any imports from other agencies in your contributions, (I got >> iMMAP from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Kosovo_iMMAP_Import) ? >> >> 3) I quite understand and agree that you cannot accept the CTs, (item 4 in >> your blog). But you also then say below "I am not going to agree to any >> contributor terms", I guess that means even if we were able to get >> permission for the imports. If we were able to accurately identify your >> personal work and/or get the necessary permissions for imports, how could we >> proceed in a manner that is acceptable to you? Would transfer of >> contributions, (probably specific change-sets or specific geographic areas), >> to another account be OK for you? >> >> Kind regards, >> Mike >> >> On 28/01/2012 16:23, Mike Dupont wrote: >>> >>> Well since you mentioned my name, h4ck3rm1k3 >>> >>> wanted to point out my blog post : >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/James%20Michael%20DuPont/diary/15777 >>> >>> I do not want to harm the project or the people in Kosovo and Albania >>> where I personally did much work there. >>> >>> And considering that the team there is very healthy and continuing in >>> Kosovo, I do not see any further personal work of mine being needed in >>> Kosovo, I am not going to waste any more time or money on Albania, I >>> do not see *any* chance there to start a community that is >>> sustainable. >>> >>> you can re license *my* personal work, I don't care about that, and >>> imports, you will have to just review them yourselves. >>> >>> dont expect me to be wasting time on understanding your new license >>> scheme or checking compatibility, and I am not going to agree to any >>> contributor terms. working on hosting my own changesets in blogposts, >>> we will talk in some years about creative commons compatibility. >>> >>> spent enough time on this license stuff, and wish you all the best of >>> luck. >>> >>> mike >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Michael Collinson<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I certainly support your sentiment but I suggest 99% is too high. >>>> >>>> We have, in rounded figures, 1,200M nodes in the database. [1] >>>> >>>> Here are just three decliners [2] who definitely are not going to agree >>>> in >>>> any form, have very high proportions of imported nodes and which WTFE is >>>> also certainly marking all or most for removal. I've also added in old >>>> anon >>>> contributions as we've probably already reached all those we can. >>>> >>>> argath 7 025 025 100% POI import as far as I am aware >>>> ABS2006 2 498 993 100% boundary import >>>> anon edits 560 467 (may be too high as some previous anon >>>> mappers have actually agreed) >>>> h4ck3rm1k3 348 274 High but unknown import proportion in a >>>> geographically concentrated area >>>> >>>> This gives 10.4M nodes or roughly 0.86% of the entire database. Add in a >>>> few >>>> other smaller and harder to quantise examples from around the world and >>>> that >>>> is the one percent right there. >>>> >>>> Caveat: I have done nodes because it is easiest, an analysis of highway >>>> ways >>>> might be better for the standard you are suggesting. >>>> >>>> There is a trade-off. The longer we leave it the more unproductive >>>> over-editing occurs and many folks in problematic areas are not going to >>>> map >>>> what appears to be already there. >>>> >>>> I'd certainly like to see these examples removed right now if the >>>> respective >>>> communities agree. But that is only rational if we have consensus that >>>> critical mass is here. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats >>>> >>>> [2] http://odbl.de/world.html >>>> >>>> >>>> On 27/01/2012 21:19, LM_1 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would have higher standard for critical mass, definitely over 99 %. >>>>> There should be a prolonged (at least one year) period where it is >>>>> known what data can remain and what cannot to allow seamless switch. >>>>> Having two months to the planned switch and still not knowing the >>>>> exact algorithm to determine what stays seems just stupid. >>>>> >>>>> Lukas (LM_1) >>>>> >>>>> 2012/1/27 Michael Collinson<[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> [cut] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> talk mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > James Michael DuPont > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
