+1. Amen to that ;-)

Nick

-----Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: -----
From: Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com>
Date: 24/05/2013 04:07PM
Cc: OSM Talk <talk@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] iD Editor live on OpenStreetMap

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Dave F. <dave...@madasafish.com> wrote:
               
     
On 24/05/2013 12:15, Nick Whitelegg       wrote:
          
         I don't regularly use iD myself (JOSM user), but, on behalf of         
its developers: negative comments like this are unhelpful and         denigrate 
the vast amount of hard work that has gone into         producing the editor. 
If you don't like it, complain about it to         your friends in private, 
change the code, but do not slag it off         on a public mailing list!
          
     You think the developers are above criticism? A public forum is     
*exactly* where they should be aired. The creators came here &     said "look 
what we've made, isn't it fantastic" & some of us     have pointed out that, 
actually, no it isn't that good. For them to     say "OK, we've made a mistake, 
why don't you fix it?" is arrogant.     Developers should not be put on 
pedestals.
     
     As has been pointed out there's a few reasons why it not good enough     
to be the default editor. Another being it's lack of relation     information 
which will lead to them being split/deleted. There needs     to be, at least, 
some kind of warning note that a selected way     contains a relation.
     The panning/background refresh speed has improved slightly in     Firefox, 
but not sure if that's Id's or FF's doing. 
     
     I think it needs pointing out, yet again, that we are all     volunteers, 
all putting in time & effort for the good of the     project.
     

There is a difference between constructive criticism and "This is the worst 
thing ever!" which is both unhelpful and objectively false.

 
Toby 
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