Hi, 2014-03-16 10:38 GMT+01:00 Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de>: > For technical reasons Google cant use OUR data and THEIR community.
Can't follow this argument: Data fusion is technically feasible beyond "filling the holes". Even if argued in favour of CC-BY before, the current status quo of the Share-alike makes me comfortable just because of this point: not getting "exploited" by big companies >only<. As said before, I'm concerned about small and medium companies (SME) and about governement being possibly constrained by ODbL. I'd like to renew following statements of Steve and Simon: 2014-03-14 16:09 GMT+01:00 Steve Coast <st...@asklater.com>: > Alex makes a bunch of these statements like that, I’ll pick three that jump > out: > 1) "the assumption that share-alike encourages contribution is a myth” > 2) "The reality is that OpenStreetMap is only used extensively in > situations where the share-alike license does not apply, for instance, map > rendering." > 3) "OpenStreetMap's current licensing is stunting our growth" > > And respond: > 1) Data would be useful either way Agreed - except some license related caveats. > 2) I’d say that’s because OSM doesn’t contain a lot of address or navigation > data > (which, as it happens, is where the money is), not because of the license. > 3) My personal belief is it might stunt CloudMade or MapBox, but not Telenav > or MapQuest, > and, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stats doesn’t show a lot of > evidence of being stunted. This last observation makes me wonder: SME should have a disadvantage because of the license: Perhaps a legal service of OSMF would help? To renew Simon's following question: 2014-03-14 10:58 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch>: > One thing I would like to hear about in this context of this discussion, > are examples of concrete use cases that are not happening because of > share alike and that are in general things that the community would like > to support Here's the "OpenEcoMap use case": In urban and regional planning OSM can complement governement data with POIs not maintained by them (OpenEcoMap). Here OSM is being combined with legally different (non-PD) governement data. Now, it should be possible to combine OSM and governement data for doing spatial analysis and maps without 'affecting' governement data. OSM vector data is not being put in the same "database". It's either being overlayed/intersected/compared within analysis with governement data - and it's being shown in a separate layer on the map. --Stefan 2014-03-16 20:53 GMT+01:00 NopMap <ekkeh...@gmx.de>: > Lets jump into this discussion late but with an exceptionally short > statement: > > A few years ago, I checked the box "All my contributions to OSM data are in > the public domain". > > Because I think that is they way it should be so everyone can play. > > Simple. > > bye, Nop > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OpenStreetMap-Isn-t-All-That-Open-Let-s-Change-That-and-Drop-Share-Alike-tp5799574p5799970.html > Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk