On 07/09/15 23:16, Dave F. wrote: > I'm not sure there's been a discussion as you've mostly ignored the > basic comment made - it it's deleted in the real world it gets deleted > in OSM.
If there is still a trace of anything related to something being deleted ... it gets it's tags modified. You only remove it completely when/if it is replaced by an alternate structure. A forest may well get felled for timber, become open land until a new crop is finally established. Just as in some cases tracks have been lifted on a viaduct or cutting but the railway use for that land is still documented. One of the problems we had was people removing the way which was actually another structure such as a viaduct and that was removed as well. The request was for people NOT to remove something if they did not understand it's reason for existing. Certainly some of the 'automated' editing of material without any personal intervention is not acceptable. But we still need a proper way to move perfectly valid 'old' data to an alternative if that is what the majority want ... I just happen to think that this is the wrong way of managing material that NEEDS a substantial amount of the existing live data to be able to manage it's complete display so one has to now manage two parallel versions of the same data :( OHM can only work if it is a compete copy of the current visible data, and all of the historic data that has gone before so that as new parts are deleted from one they remain valid in the other. The current OHM is simply a scratch pad to store isolated historic material. It does not have any of the history currently being created daily in the main database. 'It get deleted' is the very history that someone has spent a lot of time previously documenting. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk