On 7/14/2016 7:14 PM, Éric Gillet wrote:
2016-07-14 6:12 GMT+02:00 tuxayo <vic...@tuxayo.net <mailto:vic...@tuxayo.net>>:

    On 13/07/2016 09:25, Éric Gillet wrote:
    > I will summarise what course of action I think would be
    appropriate to
    > follow :
    >
    >   * It's not clear whether AE CoC terms are rules or simply
    guidelines
    >       o As Frederik said, rules should be written well in order
    to have
    >         the legitimacy to be used strictly (ODbL, Contributor's Terms 
etc.)
    >       o Guidelines should contain, well, guidelines that should
    not be
    >         used as a direct basis for reversal. They could be used as part
    >         as an argument, but just using one item should not be
    grounds
    >         for reversal by DWG.
    >   * In consequence, a choice have to be made :
    >       o Either overhaul the current AE CoC, submit it to
    RFC/voting and
    >         use it as a ruleset for contribution after a consensus is reached
    >       o Use the current AE CoC as guidelines, not strict rules.

    Should an RFC + vote be made on this? Or is there a simpler process to
    try to settle (for at least one/few years) this issue?


I don't see a simpler process than this other than just accepting the status quo. As you said before, this process is what is used in OSM (for tags), and it seems democratic to vote on rules.

    > So what do you suggest :
    >
    >   * Do one changeset by feature you're editing, where you both
    correct
    >     the original subject of the error and othoner problems ? (Very slow,
    >     but higher quality at the end)
    >   * Do both the search and replace and correct other errors on
    multiple
    >     other errors "completely manually" in the same changeset ? (Time
    >     efficient but slow, good quality of data, but at risk of
    reversal of
    >     the whole changeset)
    >   * Correct "automatically" what can be automatically corrected, and
    >     rely on QA tools to spot the other errors ? (Time efficient, quick,
    >     but leave other errors untouched)
    >
    > These three approaches seems valid to me, but it doesn't seem to
    be the
    > case for everyone.

    A fourth approach to fix that would be to have a first automated edit
    changeset and then a manual fix changeset for the other errors.
    A variant would be to reverse the order: fix the other errors
    first when
    inspecting the selected/searched objects to be automatically
    edited. And
    then doing the automated edit.


That would be slightly faster to execute than the first approach I was suggesting, but then how would you prove that you checked every and all features ?
One could upload the data for each feature - one changeset = one feature. That would at least show a time lag between each. Of course this would impose a larger load on both the contributor and the OSM web connection, but if that would avoid the continued accusation of 'mechanical edit' then so be it.
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