sent from a phone > On 9. Jun 2019, at 15:45, Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> wrote: > > As mentioned on the blog, i already asked facebook several times to comply. > They stopped replying. I'm not expecting a reply, i'm just sharing this on > the mailing list.
I guess you are expecting a reply from the OpenStreetMap-Foundation board of directors or them publicly taking a position? Because this is the n+1th time that unsatisfactory attribution (or completely missing in the case of mini maps) by Facebook is raised here, and AFAIR there was never an official statement by the board (members of the board may have replied individually and with personal statements). I would really welcome a clear statement from board, or at least one that explains that board members have different opinions on this, or why it takes them so long to say anything about it. People have contributed to OSM under the Contributor Terms, where OSMF acknowledged they would only distribute the data under the ODbL or another free and open license chosen by the active contributors. Not pursuing license violations (and not even attempting to do anything against it) is against the spirit of the whole license idea and raises questions about the validity of the Contributor Terms agreement. As you have cited, for the abusers the situation is defined in the license text, "9.0 Termination of Your rights under this License", and by using the OSM data without attribution (as confirmed also by Facebook in the email you have shared), their license is already terminated, no notification necessary ("9.1 Any breach by You of the terms and conditions of this License automatically terminates this License with immediate effect and without notice to You."). On the other hand, I believe most of us are not interested in terminating the use of our data by them, we are happy for everyone using it, it is the purpose of the project to create useful data. What we want is simply the required attribution. Noone can use a substantial part of the db without giving attribution. In some way it is also in the interest of any of our data users that there is attribution to OSM, because if the OSM community grows, it will result in more accurate and up to date map data. Cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk