Hello fellow OSMers! π
So this is from me. Last year I made some mashups of the OSM logo. There is often a lot of big business presence at tech/FLOSS conferences now, so I thought βWhat would be the opposite of that?β I am pretty lefty, and I do like OSM's anarchistic/do-ocracy/flat/non-hierarchical tradition anyway. So I ordered these stickers for a laugh, and they (& the LGBTQ designs) were quite popular. I don't believe it breeches the OSMF Trademark policy. Β§3.5 allows remixed logos for user group logos. Β§3.2 & Β§3.4 allow the use of stickers. (There is plenty of other examples of OSM trademark use BTW π) I thought it was clear that it didn't reflect OSMF policy, but I'm sure I can communicate that better, to avoid all doubt. Mea Culpa. Β§2.2 of the Trademark policy does require a more explicit notice, which I've now added to the wiki page. Β§2.3 says I shouldn't suggest OSMF endorsement, and I don't want to suggest, or imply, OSMF affiliation or endorsement! π I've added a message the wiki page for that image. Do you think that suffices? Yes, by definition all democratic societies are "anti-fascist", but even I know the logo is more than just "anti-fascist", and... controversial. π _However_ I need to think on this. We have a lot of work to do. We have a whole world to map. I don't want everyone to fight, or external people to get mistaken ideas about OSM. π Someone might have a false idea of one thing, and (falsely) think all of OSM is like that. That can go both ways: Right wing, bigoted, politicians sometimes claim "antifa are violent terrorists" (cf. Trump after the Charlottesville rally). βOSM doesn't have a Code of Conduct, and they just banned the antifa logo saying it's a horrible violent organization!β could make some marginalized groups (falsely) think OSM is full of a certain type of hostile person! As well as OSM being inherently political, "No politics" can (in practice) translate to "Don't act gay, and people are allowed be homophobic to you and you can't complain" (etc). If you think it's OK for people to act gay/etc in an OSM event, then a "no politics" rule communicates quite the opposite (alas). IMO you should rephrase. Yes, the OSM community/OSMF should think about what kinds of (political) issues we should (& shouldn't) get involved with, and what should be in our spaces. (hey... maybe there should be some sort of code of how you can conduct yourself in OSM spaces.... π€ππ) So I need to think. My email inbox is open if anyone wants to give suggestions/(confidential?) advice/tell me to knock it off/tell me to keep going. Just cause something is legal, or within the trademark policy, doesn't mean it's always a good idea. π Yours, in mapping, Rory P.S.: For the avoidance of doubt: I paid for all these myself. This email (& the logo) represent my personal opinions, not those of the OSMF board, the OSMF, the OSM project, etc. I paid for these myself. These stickers are not part of the newly founded CWG's promotional material programme. I designed & got them well before I thought about running for the board. On 10.02.20 16:57, Midgard wrote:
Hi, Someone created a mashup[1] between the logos of OpenStreetMap and Antifa, a collective of militant groups which are known to use violence. This graphic is distributed on stickers.[2] I'm asking to cease use of this logo. I think it's a bad idea to create material that associates OpenStreetMap with political groups. I suspect there are also trademark issues with the mashup. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:2019_OSM_Anarchist_Antifa_logo.svg [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Promotional_Material_Programme#Swag_from_Individual_OSMers Kind regards, Midgard _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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