May 25, 2020, 17:34 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-05-25 17:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > >> May 25, 2020, 16:48 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: >> >>> >>> On 2020-05-25 16:20, Jack Armstrong wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Why are railways given a special status? >>>> >>> Nobody gives anything a status in OSM. Nothing is "approved" so nothing is >>> "forbidden" either. >>> >> It is not really accurate - there is plenty of forbidden things (like running >> imports without discussion, we have tags that are silently removed by >> editors like iD and JOSM). >> > Doing imports without discussion more about the process, and less about the > details of the result. An import can be declared "bad" for many reasons. > > If iD and JOSM remove certain tags when they are encountered, that is > different from removing whole objects. > OK, though that is much narrower than "Nothing is "approved" so nothing is "forbidden" either." claim. >> We have voted on tags that are described as "approved". >> >> Even if ">> Nothing is "approved">> " is true it does not mean that nothing >> is forbidden. >> > Can you name one tag that is "forbidden"? Does that mean a standing > instruction to all mappers to remove it whenever it is found, or a license to > do a seek-and-destroy across the whole database? Or does "forbidden" not > quite mean "may not appear in OSM"? "Frowned upon" possibly. > I would say that "Does that mean a standing instruction to all mappers to remove it whenever it is found, or a license to do a seek-and-destroy across the whole database?" applies to several things (listed below). >> Is there any case of a whole class of objects being removed from OSM on the >> grounds >> that they "do not belong"? Who would burn their fingers on that? >> Depends on what you mean by "whole class of objects". >> > Class, category, whatever... A subset of the objects in the OSM data with > common characteristics. > > >> >> If we are looking to set a precedent for that it would probably be wiser to >> pick on a less controversial and emotive subject. >> >> We have precedent that entire classes and types of things are >> out of scope. >> > Where is that written down? What classes and types of things have been > declared out of scope? > For example things that I immediately remember - fictional objects - blatantly subjective things like reviews, ratings - mapping of private objects (location of my bed) - mapping of moving objects (location of myself or a moving ship or plane) - completely gone objects (for railways the question is when railway is fully gone) - personal detail (ties into subjective ones) like "my favorite trees", or "towns I visited" - objects on Moon/Mars and other locations outside Earth there is more of that - listed here is what I immediately remembered. > Any record of a transparent process that led to that? Not sure if there was any formal process to establish that for example we are not mapping fictional objects.
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