Thank you John for your correspondence. We are going through a similar journey.
Are you able to share how the OSM community accepted that their data could be used and then offered for public use under a different licence arrangement without the need to "Share-alike"? Also are you able to provide clarity on what your role is in negotiating this understanding? Thank you again in advance for your contribution and engagement. Kind regards, George George Boulos DTP Data Governance Manager Strategy - Mobility and Insights - Policy, Precincts and Innovation Department of Transport & Planning Level 4, 1 Spring Street Melbourne, VIC 3000 M: +61 (0)428 470 301 george.bou...@roads.vic.gov.au<mailto:george.bou...@roads.vic.gov.au> transport.vic.gov.au<https://transport.vic.gov.au/> [cid:image001.png@01D9D0FB.5CE23E80] ________________________________ From: john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, 3 July 2023 10:26 AM To: Robert C Potter (DTP) <robert.pot...@roads.vic.gov.au<mailto:robert.pot...@roads.vic.gov.au>> Cc: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list <talk@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns If you are releasing data under an open government license then .odbl etc shouldn't come into it. Have a look at the Canadian Federal government license 2.0 https://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://open.canada.ca/en/open-government-licence-canada__;!!C5rN6bSF!G2U6Zb2seMiuNJs_FPf8peH3kbw_V9vrfuT-k_JX_EqAy3V9uDNyeVpGKdcL1u_uGXsKeWmOqzoEBE27J2c6xfLouWXR-KVz$> This took a number of years to thrash out and has been formally accepted by OSM etc. Cheerio John On Sun, Jul 2, 2023, 20:13 Robert C Potter (DTP) via talk <talk@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: Hi OSM, Representing the state transport authority (Department of Transport and Planning) we have made the strategic decision to use OSM as our foundational mapping data source. We are confident that this is a decision will be of value to both ourselves improving the management of the networks (road, Train, Bus, tram) and adding significantly to the citizens of the state. Our intended use of OSM is built on an extract being done then validating that extract for the gazetted/official place and road names. The resultant validated dataset will be shared that via our Opendata portal. Our state government has a strong commitment to sharing all data openly. We are currently developing that process and should be in production by the end of the year. Alas, there has been concern from our distribution partners with the ODbl license requirement to "Share alike". You know these companies; Google, Here, Tomtom and Apple. The information we would share, and all shared as ODbl; * Disruptions * Heavy vehicles * Bicycles routes * Public transport routes and timetables I am wondering how we, can continue engage with these partners and use and improve OSM. If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact me. Regards, Robert Potter Helping people use the power of location to make better decisions Manager, Spatial Data Strategy Department of Transport and Planning 1 Spring Street MELBOURNE 3000 M 0402 484 739 F 03 9935 4111 E robert.pot...@roads.vic.gov.au<mailto:robert.pot...@roads.vic.gov.au> W dtp.vic.gov.au<http://dtp.vic.gov.au/> [cid:16f05bdc-8c23-42fb-9db6-2304edffd042] I acknowledge the Traditional Aboriginal Owners of Country throughout Victoria and pay my respect to Elders past and present and emerging and to the ongoing living culture of Aboriginal people. 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