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lol - Example: I use Eclipse. It's not a "source code editor / syntax
highlighter / code completer", it's a framework that has the JDT - THAT
does those functions. It also doesn't integrate with SVN. Subclipse does
that. So I don't believe Tapestry should do what I'd like - I think
there should be a framework that uses Tapestry for what Tapestry does,
but also has more 'plugins'. If you've ever used Vignette's StoryServer
(or others out there), it's the same concept.

"do it whenever, I don't care"... yeah - never heard that before. :-D

Geoff Longman wrote:
> On 4/26/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know... I think (as much as I'd like to see this just 'built in')
> this is a lot like saying "I'd like my source code editor/syntax
> highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" - it doesn't
> belong. What you need is an "Eclipse/Idea/Pick your IDE" that integrates
> the two.
> 
>> The above paragraph is in some English-like language that look
>> *exactly* like English but runs through my brain without computing
>> into anything at all ;-)
> 
>> Probably the similar to the language my wife uses to mean "do it
>> yesterday or I will make your life a living hell" when she says "do it
>> whenever, I don't care."
> 
>> What does "I'd like my source code editor/syntax
>>  highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" mean?
> 
>> Geoff
> 
> 
> Hmmm... Yeah... That would be an interesting endeavor. Time to work out
> something like this... Take that IDE to application-land.
> 
> James Carman wrote:
>>>> It might be worth looking into OSCache for this.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Brian K. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:20 AM
>>>> To: Tapestry development
>>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 progress
>>>>
>>>> Works for me. Plenty of growing room for 4 left anyway, right Jesse? ;-)
>>>> I'm just hoping to get documentation (*ugh*) and tooling (Spindle) up to
>>>> speed before 5 hits. (feed the masses and all that :-))
>>>>
>>>> In speaking of performance... (I'm off in dream land here, I know... but
>>>> I like it there sometimes)
>>>>
>>>> Many moons ago, there was talk of a 'tool' /'utility' that would
>>>> basically spider a Tapestry app and get all the generated HTML resulting
>>>> in basically a statically generated site. This helps tremendously when
>>>> you're running behind a web server that's tuned to serve static content
>>>> - it's what they do and they do it pretty well with no overhead past
>>>> itself (meaning no java, no db, etc). I'd like to see if we can't add
>>>> some sort of 'cache' attribute to the HTML (somewhere) that would allow
>>>> Tapestry to perform this type of "wait, it says to cache it - i've
>>>> already generated it, I'll just grab that and use it" processing. This
>>>> would also allow Tapestry to build on first access but write out the
>>>> generated HTML so the next time a request comes in for it, the web
>>>> server would find it first (outside the mapping for Tapestry). Granted
>>>> this would only work for pages that were "cache=true" and had no dynamic
>>>> components inside it, but for a lot of sites that's enough (especially
>>>> outside a 'user' area). If there's a static form, submitting it would
>>>> pass back to Tapestry for processing.
>>>>
>>>> I'd see this as only improving performance if you run Tapestry behind
>>>> something like Apache. Granted, you'd get a lot of "that's not fair -
>>>> you're not comparing our framework to yours if you don't hit your
>>>> framework more than once when we have to hit ours every time"
>>>> comments... but hey ;-)
>>>>
>>>> My .02
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
>>>>>> The basic AOP  infrastructure is coming along. I expect the rest to
>>>>>> ramp up pretty quickly once I get that in place, but we're still
>>>>>> talking months.  Maybe a useable beta by year's end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I predicted a big performance boost for Tapestry 4 apps vs.
>>>>>> equivalent Tapestry 3 apps.  I believe the difference between 4 and 5
>>>>>> will be greater. In fact, I expect OGNL support to be an add on, and
>>>>>> the built-in code will be an improved version of tapestry-prop (from
>>>>>> Tapestry @ JavaForge).  I want Tapestry to be extremely high
>>>>>> performance, as one of its differentiators from JSF and Rails.
>>>>>>

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