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On 4/26/06, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm. Wouldn't it be neat if Tapestry had a runtime environment that > promoted the use of plugins to extend the available features. Sort of > a hive of plugins working together, each minding its own portion of > the application ... :-) > > On 4/26/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > lol - Example: I use Eclipse. It's not a "source code editor / syntax > > highlighter / code completer", it's a framework that has the JDT - THAT > > does those functions. It also doesn't integrate with SVN. Subclipse does > > that. So I don't believe Tapestry should do what I'd like - I think > > there should be a framework that uses Tapestry for what Tapestry does, > > but also has more 'plugins'. If you've ever used Vignette's StoryServer > > (or others out there), it's the same concept. > > > > "do it whenever, I don't care"... yeah - never heard that before. :-D > > > > Geoff Longman wrote: > > > On 4/26/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You know... I think (as much as I'd like to see this just 'built in') > > > this is a lot like saying "I'd like my source code editor/syntax > > > highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" - it doesn't > > > belong. What you need is an "Eclipse/Idea/Pick your IDE" that integrates > > > the two. > > > > > >> The above paragraph is in some English-like language that look > > >> *exactly* like English but runs through my brain without computing > > >> into anything at all ;-) > > > > > >> Probably the similar to the language my wife uses to mean "do it > > >> yesterday or I will make your life a living hell" when she says "do it > > >> whenever, I don't care." > > > > > >> What does "I'd like my source code editor/syntax > > >> highlighter/code completer to have source code integration" mean? > > > > > >> Geoff > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... Yeah... That would be an interesting endeavor. Time to work out > > > something like this... Take that IDE to application-land. > > > > > > James Carman wrote: > > >>>> It might be worth looking into OSCache for this. > > >>>> > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>> From: Brian K. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:20 AM > > >>>> To: Tapestry development > > >>>> Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 progress > > >>>> > > >>>> Works for me. Plenty of growing room for 4 left anyway, right Jesse? > > >>>> ;-) > > >>>> I'm just hoping to get documentation (*ugh*) and tooling (Spindle) up > > >>>> to > > >>>> speed before 5 hits. (feed the masses and all that :-)) > > >>>> > > >>>> In speaking of performance... (I'm off in dream land here, I know... > > >>>> but > > >>>> I like it there sometimes) > > >>>> > > >>>> Many moons ago, there was talk of a 'tool' /'utility' that would > > >>>> basically spider a Tapestry app and get all the generated HTML > > >>>> resulting > > >>>> in basically a statically generated site. This helps tremendously when > > >>>> you're running behind a web server that's tuned to serve static content > > >>>> - it's what they do and they do it pretty well with no overhead past > > >>>> itself (meaning no java, no db, etc). I'd like to see if we can't add > > >>>> some sort of 'cache' attribute to the HTML (somewhere) that would allow > > >>>> Tapestry to perform this type of "wait, it says to cache it - i've > > >>>> already generated it, I'll just grab that and use it" processing. This > > >>>> would also allow Tapestry to build on first access but write out the > > >>>> generated HTML so the next time a request comes in for it, the web > > >>>> server would find it first (outside the mapping for Tapestry). Granted > > >>>> this would only work for pages that were "cache=true" and had no > > >>>> dynamic > > >>>> components inside it, but for a lot of sites that's enough (especially > > >>>> outside a 'user' area). If there's a static form, submitting it would > > >>>> pass back to Tapestry for processing. > > >>>> > > >>>> I'd see this as only improving performance if you run Tapestry behind > > >>>> something like Apache. Granted, you'd get a lot of "that's not fair - > > >>>> you're not comparing our framework to yours if you don't hit your > > >>>> framework more than once when we have to hit ours every time" > > >>>> comments... but hey ;-) > > >>>> > > >>>> My .02 > > >>>> Brian > > >>>> > > >>>> Howard Lewis Ship wrote: > > >>>>>> The basic AOP infrastructure is coming along. I expect the rest to > > >>>>>> ramp up pretty quickly once I get that in place, but we're still > > >>>>>> talking months. Maybe a useable beta by year's end. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I think I predicted a big performance boost for Tapestry 4 apps vs. > > >>>>>> equivalent Tapestry 3 apps. I believe the difference between 4 and 5 > > >>>>>> will be greater. In fact, I expect OGNL support to be an add on, and > > >>>>>> the built-in code will be an improved version of tapestry-prop (from > > >>>>>> Tapestry @ JavaForge). I want Tapestry to be extremely high > > >>>>>> performance, as one of its differentiators from JSF and Rails. > > >>>>>> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (MingW32) > > > > iD8DBQFET7DVaCoPKRow/gARAmKhAJ9nMufXCvQOfoKYMD1z0rLydvLlSwCfdLF1 > > 2kVbZyicMJD9mG/fxIZDMoQ= > > =ZDag > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. 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