Hi there!
On 26 Dec 99, at 8:01, tracer wrote
about "Re[2]: SOT: Y2K and possible virus ":
Okay, this happened to become a lo-o-o-ng message, so to
those who aren't interested in Dr.Web: just skip it. Nothing TB-
related inside:-)
> On install it seems to hang for ages. However its working to
> make certain files for each of your hard disks, so let it go.
Seems to depend on the overall HDD space. I have much fewer
of it currently then you say you do, hence different results:-)
> The main module, dr Web, has an English switch in the main menu.
> Spider has English switch via the bar, right click.
BTW, Spider isn't designed for NT. It won't be installed if you
run NT. It's supposed to start to support NT in the future. Right
now, one might use Adinf under NT instead of Spider.
> The third module, ie the Dos box which can pop up with warnings,
it's drwebwcl.exe, CLI version of the program.
> has a setting (I think) in Drweb32.ini, which is in the drweb
> directory.
> [DOS]
> LngFileName="Russian.DWL"
Just tested: delete this line, and it will switch to English:-) Sorry
for inconvenience, but I told you it was an offer for *Russians*:-
) Time to learn Russian, yeah?
> Now having been to the website, to see whats on offer on has to go to
> the Russian site and there is a release document 40 mentioned.
> Following that link one sees this whole offer described and while not
> perfectly clear there is also mendtioned ADINF which as far as I
> understand is ALSO on free offer.
Yes.
> I know Alex doesnt seem to use it, I do (g)
Correct. Didn't evem d/l it.
> Now this in my opinion is quite an interesting and useful part of the
> whole package as it checks every time what files where
Adinf is a separate program. It's made by the people other then
the Dr.Web team. While I *do* trust Dr.Web programmers, I
personally don't trust Adinf team much (a couple of years ago
this proggy used to be quite... well, buggy). Since given the
current power of Spider I don't need it, I keep refusing to
check how it works now. They say, it's pretty good when Word-
Macro attacks are concerned, but alas I don't use Word, too:-)
> Anyway, I hope this helps others, as a product its recommended.
> But you have to be able to read it (g) as I totally hung my system by
> pressing the wrong button on that dos box.
Seems to be solved now:-)
> What is not clear to me though as I donot see it mentioned anywhere,
> is if this special version has to be registered as a downloaded free
> copy or if one can just keep using it. Ie, does one apply for a
> special key??
As for Dr.Web, this "christmas" version will work _literally_
forever, it doesn't require any kind of key and has no timelimits
built in. But note, that Dr.Web team releases *new* executable
about once in every 1.5 months, so in February this version will
no longer be the fresh one:-) Nevertheless, it will *still support*
the (always free) virus database updates *even then*. The
vendors release these updates weekly usually, then, when the
new version is released, these updates together with the old
main database form fresh "main virus database", which's
released together with the new version of the executables. After
that the "cycle" is repeated, i.e., new updates are released and
so on. So if you are not interested in the new features/fixes the
new versions of executables contain, you can safely d/load
only the updates (for free:-)). The format of the
database/updates isn't changed from version to version, hence
the older versions work well with the virus updates intended for
newer ones.
Well, hope you understood all this:-) Means, you can use the
program for free from now on:-))
As for the Adinf, I really don't know. Have to check this out for
you. But tomorrow:-)
> That needs someone (Alex ??) who can read Russian properly!
> My experience is 35 years old from my university period and alas was more
> math/physics and chemistry papers reading oriented.....
>
> Other thing it may mention somewhere but I donot see sofar is that
> every time you update the dignatures, a pair of files is added and
> that if the basic database of the program changes all the updates it
> doesnt need anymore as they are in the base, will get flagged as not
> being able to be loaded during start. Its in the logs...
I've explained this above. Provided that they don't change the
format of databases, the updating process looks like:
version 1.15 with main virus database
- an update to the virus database (single file, usually a
couple of kbytes, that's put to the same directory and is
autoloaded by the program on startup)
- another update.... it's weekly
...........
version 1.16 with it's own main database, which's in fact the
database of 1.15 plus all the updates to that one that were
released sofar
- again weekly updates...... till version 1.17:-)
So if you *pay* them for 1.16 when it's released, you'll no
longer need the updates to the database of 1.15 and these
won't be loaded by the program on startup... But if you *don't*
pay them for 1.16, you'll still be able to d/load all the 1.16-
updates for free, and the program will happily use these...
> Anyway for those who have never used this package, I have a special
> directory with zips containing virus strains, and its a fairly
> compleate collection as I was involved with one of the Av companies in
> testing and sending them new samples.
> I have about 10000 of them sitting there and Norton/McAfee find about
> 6100, AVP and Dr WEB come very close and find about 9500-9600.
That's what I call "superb quality":-) Never had any problems
with virii, always used Dr.Web and nothing but it:-)
> Unique strains, not one of the many clones they give different names.
> Which is why Dr Web finds so 'few' compared to those who count every
> minor variation as a virus even if the same scanner strings will find
> them...
Yup, that's how NAI etc. advertise themselves:-)
> Whatever, Dr Web and AVP get very similar results and I would trust
> them a lot more then Norton/McAfee to catch what I donot want to run.
> Alex, great thanks to letting us know, now please tell me do I have
> somewhere to register to let them KNOW I run this free version?
No, just run it:-) They do not require any kind of notification. In
the license they say "Just use it for free". They say that they
just wanted to help the users on the eve of the Y2K. That's what
is called generous behaviour:-)
> Or is that in the included key files...
I believe, there must be some kind of key for the Adinf
"Christmas gift", but there is nothing of the kind for Dr.Web.
Actually, they do not protect even the commercial releases:-)
No password, nothing. It's only exe-packed to prevent hacking
the code. Typically you pay them and in turn receive the
password needed to d/load the commercial version off their ftp.
That's all...
--
SY, Alex
(St.Petersburg, Russia)
http://mph.phys.spbu.ru/~akiselev
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Thought for the day:
DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...
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PGP public keys on keyservers:
0xA2194BF9 (RSA); 0x214135A2 (DH/DSS)
fingerprints:
F222 4AEF EC9F 5FA6 7515 910A 2429 9CB1 (RSA)
A677 81C9 48CF 16D1 B589 9D33 E7D5 675F 2141 35A2 (DH/DSS)
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