ken green wrote:

kg> OK.  Manual is better than nothing, I suppose... :)

Yes.

>> Read and replied filters do work automatically though.

kg> Not my experience. But I could have done something wrong. I will
kg> test this some more. How are you marking items as read?

There are two ways a message can be marked as read.

- you manually mark it read.

- it's automatically marked as read as defined in the account
  preferences/options.

Read filters will be auto executed only when

a) messages are automatically flagged as read by your defined time
delay after it's being viewed, and

and

b) you now move to another message or folder/account.

If you manually mark a message as read and then switch to another
message, the filter will not execute.

kg> I wouldn't mind making *ALL* filters (for my IMAP/non-mail accounts)
kg> Read filters.  I set them up to work only when a message is UnParked AND
kg> UnFlagged, so as I read mail (all in Inbox) messages get moved unless I
kg> mark them.  <-- this is working fine in 1.62r, by the way.

Hmmm. They work no differently for IMAP, so if you have them working
for POP then they should be working for IMAP.

By the way, if your connection isn't fast, then messages will not be
moved right away but on the next sync operation.

Try dragging and dropping a message to another folder. If your
connection is fast, the operation should be immediately carried out as
if it were POP. However, if the connection is slow, it would seem as
if nothing happened. At the next sync operation, TB! will send
commands to the server to carry out the move operation and then the
folders will be sync'd to reflect the move.

Could this be the problem with your read filters?

kg> What about folders that are not on the server? Are they
kg> automatically created during the sync process?

I don't understand what you're asking there. How would a local folder
be automatically created during a sync operation?

kg> What about folders set to NOT sync? It looks like moving items to
kg> folders not set to sync marks the item for deletion.

When you move a message from one folder to another, the copy in the
source folder is marked for deletion while a copy is placed in the
target folder. The copy in the source folder is permanently removed
when the folder is compressed or expunged, expunged being the IMAP
specific term used.

kg> I will double-check that behavior, but that is what I want - if I
kg> move a message to a common folder for reference/archiving/etc.,
kg> marking it for deletion on the server - only after the move -
kg> would be great.

I don't have any common folders here, but let's try here and see. I
have a slow connection here at work.

OK. I dragged and dropped the messages just fine. I'm not surprised
with this since the source IMAP folders are set to fully sync with the
servers. As a result, I have cached copies of messages. The moved
messages were removed from the source IMAP folders list, i.e., marked
for deleteion, and if I choose to compress/expunge, they'll be
permanently removed.

kg> Read filters and manual processing is good enough for me for now :)  I
kg> can be patient if the read filters will work.  I have not installed any
kg> betas yet (clean, fresh install of CE)... maybe that is why the read
kg> filters didn't work?

Probably, though I do recall them working since I started using IMAP.

I'd recommend trying the latest beta if you're an IMAP user. The last
series of betas have been mainly bug fixing oriented, so they've been
safe to use (is any software safe?). :)

kg> What do you mean by server side filters?

Filtering done on the server.

kg> If you're talking about server-side admin because you have full
kg> access to your mail server, then never mind - I don't have that
kg> kind of access.

Do you have web access to your IMAP account/s?

Usually, if you do, you can create filters for web based e-mail
accounts. These are the filters I'm referring to. Not very fancy, but
could save a lot of trouble.

I do have admin control of my IMAP server. However, all IMAP accounts
are accessible via a web based client type interface. One can create
filters from there.

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