Marcelo,

We would like to ask the WG to express their support to adopt one
(or none) of the following documents as WG document that will serve
as a basis for the protocol specification. Of course, the draft,
if adopted, will need to updated according to the WG input. In
particular, they need to be updated to not protect the TCP header.

The candidate drafts are:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rescorla-tcpinc-tls-option/

We plan to discuss this on the meeting but it would be useful to start
the discussion before the meeting, so if you can express your opinions
before the meeting, it would be helpful.

I don't think that this is the right question to ask. Tcpcrypt is a mature proposal while tcpinc-tls is a first idea that could lead to a more detailed draft later.

There are two high level questions that are hidden behind the draft adoption question that you asked :

1. Key exchange : do the working group members want to define a new key exchange scheme (see tcpcrypt) or reuse (some of) the existing TLS key exchange mechanisms

2. Encoding of protocol information : do the working group members prefer to encode information related to the operation of tcpinc mainly in the TCP payload by using a TLV format or mainly in TCP options


Currently, tcpcrypt relies mainly on TCP options and defines a new key exchange mechanims, while tcpinc-tls does not rely on TCP options and reuse the TLS key exchange schemes. These are two possible designs once we have answered these two questions, but not the only ones. Other combinations are possible. For example, tcpinc could design a new key exchange mechanism and encode the tcpinc information by using a TLV format in the payload.

I think that we should first discuss these two high level design questions before looking at the details of these two drafts.


Olivier

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