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What are you talking about?  This isn't an "opennet hack", nor is it  
"alchemical", nor does it really need to be simulated since it is  
more about usability than something that would have a major effect on  
network topology (except, perhaps, to make the network bigger).  It  
is simply a way to make it easier for two people that have mutually  
decided to connect to each-other to connect to each-other.

Are you going to dismiss every effort to make it easier for people to  
connect to each other as an "opennet hack"?  Don't you realize that  
it is of fundamental importance that we make it as easy as possible  
for people to connect to each-other?  And before you say it; no, this  
doesn't inevitably mean that people will just connect to complete  
strangers in a way that destroys clustering.

Ian.

On 22 Jun 2006, at 10:46, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> Please lets not implement alchemical unsimulated opennet-like  
> hacks! If
> and when we need and are able to build opennet, we can do it...
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 09:52:36AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
>> That is not a bad idea, although a major down-side is that it
>> requires that the recipient of the invite is already connected to
>> Freenet.  Our biggest challenge is making it as easy as possible for
>> new peers to join the network - although increasing the connection
>> density of peers that are already part of the network is also  
>> important.
>>
>> Ian.
>>
>> On 22 Jun 2006, at 09:17, Yongqian Li wrote:
>>
>>> I have an idea for implementing invitational references. Bascially,
>>> in the reference would be a private SSK. When a client receives
>>> such an invitation, it would insert its own ref under the private
>>> SSK which the sender of the invitation can regularly check. This
>>> can be extended to allow an invitation to be used multiple times:
>>> the receiver of the invitation would just try to insert under
>>> SSK at blahblah/1/ and if it fails under SSK at blahblah/2/ and so on and
>>> the sender can check under those as well.
>>>
>>> I am not sure about the security implications of such a system or
>>> how hard it is to implement but I think it can make adding peers
>>> easier. Of course, the person being invited has to be on the
>>> network already...
>>>
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