If I understand this suggestion correctly, he's just asking for the ability to use a SSK instead of code.bulix.org
On Jun 22, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > I apologize; I was confusing this with another scheme involving SSKs, > which was an opennet hack. > > I absolutely agree that "it is of fundamental importance that we > make it > as easy as possible for people [ who already know each other ] to > connect to each-other". Hence the work going on on IRC plugins. > > However an invitation scheme which relies on freenet itself is not > very > useful; we need an invite scheme which can be used to invite people > not > presently on Freenet. > > Nextgens is absolutely opposed to UP&P for some fairly good reasons, > however without automatic port forwarding I am not sure that any > non-interactive invite scheme can work. Having said that an > interactive > invite scheme (an IM plugin for example) may be a better fit to the > problem then sending invites over email. > > On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 12:24:05PM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> What are you talking about? This isn't an "opennet hack", nor is it >> "alchemical", nor does it really need to be simulated since it is >> more about usability than something that would have a major effect on >> network topology (except, perhaps, to make the network bigger). It >> is simply a way to make it easier for two people that have mutually >> decided to connect to each-other to connect to each-other. >> >> Are you going to dismiss every effort to make it easier for people to >> connect to each other as an "opennet hack"? Don't you realize that >> it is of fundamental importance that we make it as easy as possible >> for people to connect to each-other? And before you say it; no, this >> doesn't inevitably mean that people will just connect to complete >> strangers in a way that destroys clustering. >> >> Ian. >> >> On 22 Jun 2006, at 10:46, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> >>> Please lets not implement alchemical unsimulated opennet-like >>> hacks! If >>> and when we need and are able to build opennet, we can do it... >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 09:52:36AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote: >>>> That is not a bad idea, although a major down-side is that it >>>> requires that the recipient of the invite is already connected to >>>> Freenet. Our biggest challenge is making it as easy as possible >>>> for >>>> new peers to join the network - although increasing the connection >>>> density of peers that are already part of the network is also >>>> important. >>>> >>>> Ian. >>>> >>>> On 22 Jun 2006, at 09:17, Yongqian Li wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have an idea for implementing invitational references. >>>>> Bascially, >>>>> in the reference would be a private SSK. When a client receives >>>>> such an invitation, it would insert its own ref under the private >>>>> SSK which the sender of the invitation can regularly check. This >>>>> can be extended to allow an invitation to be used multiple times: >>>>> the receiver of the invitation would just try to insert under >>>>> SSK at blahblah/1/ and if it fails under SSK at blahblah/2/ and so on >>>>> and >>>>> the sender can check under those as well. >>>>> >>>>> I am not sure about the security implications of such a system or >>>>> how hard it is to implement but I think it can make adding peers >>>>> easier. Of course, the person being invited has to be on the >>>>> network already... >>>>> >>>>> Express yourself instantly with Windows Live Messenger >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tech mailing list >>>>> Tech at freenetproject.org >>>>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech mailing list >>>> Tech at freenetproject.org >>>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >>> >>> -- >>> Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org >>> Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ >>> ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech mailing list >>> Tech at freenetproject.org >>> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) >> >> iD8DBQFEmu5VQtgxRWSmsqwRAqr0AJ9yw8x2JW5mtuVYQFsou3rZALwFfgCfdg7g >> q/U/eh39hK9VTqyZosHn4v4= >> =ruOL >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech mailing list >> Tech at freenetproject.org >> http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech >> > > -- > Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > _______________________________________________ > Tech mailing list > Tech at freenetproject.org > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech
