Ross West <[email protected]> writes:

> BTW: Are you getting the rack pre-installed in 1/4s? Because you
> generally can't get conversion kits - since split racks are custom
> with isolated cable access to each part. So this could be all a moot
> idea since you're now offering unsecured/shared access, and people
> will use someone else's plug.

I've rented similar products where the space was marked off by shelves, and
where each rack had it's own PDU...  I think the 'don't touch other people's
stuff' social barrier is strong enough.  (besides, if you do plug into
an empty looking pdu, and the other customer notices, /best case/ you 
get unplugged.  More likely the other customer complains and I kick
you off.) 


> Also you might find that the main colo provider has issues with you
> doing your own custom electrical/network installation between rack
> spaces. 95% of colo 1/4 racks do not have intra-rack distribution, so
> you need to go external - and then you might then be forced to use
> things like armored/waterproof electrical cabling if you're allowed at
> all.

Yes, I'd be doing a regular rack deliniated by shelves.

> You can get a big (eg 60amp/208v/3phase) circuit and only pay for
> usage with a minimum commit (watts) in some places, so it becomes
> almost exactly like a burstable network pipe.

Yup, but the places around here that I know about that do that charge
about as much for just the rack, before power, as I'm paying for
a full rack and 2x20a circuits, and more thant twice as much as the
single rack/ 15a circuit deal I'm talking about using for the cheap
co-lo  -  before paying for /any/ power.  


> > Yeah.  208v would actually be fine, if I could find it cheap.  but
> > the opportunity I see now is a reasonable (not awesome but reasonable)
> > cost per watt at he.net, which gets me lots of rackspace (which is nice
> > to have, even though it's not really essential)   and he.net has pretty
> > smooth remote hands and access control policies, if I can set it up such
> > that people can be trusted to deal withstuff.
> 
> 208v is horrid for "cheap colo" - people commonly bring 120v only
> devices to be installed since they don't know the difference, and then
> when faced with a C14 receptacle, you need to solve the problem of
> different plugs and power.

Eh, really, I don't mind something of a barrier to entry.   I wouldn't
mind handing out c14 computer power cords, along with a 'this will fry 
stuff meant for 120v' warning... considering that  everything that uses
iec cables that has been built in the last 15 years support 100-240v  (and
stuff has a switch for a bit before that) I think it'll be fine.  
the c14 sockets will prevent people from accidentally frying their
wall warts.  


> DCs have generally smartened up and now bill based on watts, and
> can give it via whatever voltage you want/need. They have
> re-discovered why the electrical company bills in kWh and not
> amperage. :-)

> The days of amperage based billing (regardless of voltage) is long
> gone - except for the lucky SOBs that have old power circuits under
> those old contracts.

Huh.  around here, i've only seen metered billing at much more expensive
co-los.  the cheap places where I work charge by circuit capacity.  


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