I'm a federal employee. My prints have been on file for years. I do not find it humiliating or feel that my privacy has been invaded. Why were you so humiliated? Our country has suffered some terrible blows in recent years from people disguised as friends. I'm not sure where you're from, but how does your country verify the identification of foreign nationals?
Louise > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:49:50 -0700 > From: katy...@yahoo.com > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related > > Hm, > > Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason come to visit USA) encrypt our > fingerprints? I have never been to any as humiliating process as this one: > being taken my fingerprints at the US border. > > I guess it is really not the best way to make friends. I know many of my > friends in Europe who would not come to USA precisely for this reason. > > For whatever reasons, very recently, Texas Teachers were ordered to give > their fingerprints as well. I expected riots and protests - but they went > silently to gave up all their privacy as easily as that! What a KGB country > of obedient society who shouts loudly on privacy but really forgot what > "privacy" really means! > > Really, if I had a kid, I would not like it to be educated by these teachers. > > Katy > > > > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related > > To: "Mixon Bill" <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> > > Cc: "Cavers Texas" <texascavers@texascavers.com> > > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:10 AM > > I figure if you re-constitute zeros and ones > > on my computer with enough permutations, you can make up > > just about anything including 9/11 plans and blueprints for > > thermonuke devices. > > > > I am all FOR encryption. If its MY bizness, then it > > should STAY my business. As far as probing things I've > > thought about and not done - well that is MINE ALONE. Stay > > out of my HEAD - FEDS! > > > > > > And as far as tracking my relative position between cell > > phone towers - How else can I receive a phone call when > > I'm out and about? But yeah - thanks for reminding me, > > Bill - I should always remember to always turn it off when > > I'm out there committing crimes! > > > > > > -WaV > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 PM, > > Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > > Surely the authority of the customs people to inspect > > vessels or vehicles applies only to those that have been > > outside the United States? > > > > > > > > Anyway, there was an amusing thing in the news a few months > > ago. Some guy came into the US from Canada and somehow the > > customs people learned that there was kiddy porn on his > > laptop computer and arrested him. However, the files were > > encrypted, and even the feds were unable to break the > > encryption and prove it. Courts ruled that the defendent > > could not be required to give up the key to the code. (I > > suspect this might have been a deliberate test case, with > > the offending image deliberately out where the customs > > inspector would see it.) > > > > > > > > > > Drive them crazy. Get PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and encrypt > > lots of perfectly innocent stuff on your computer. Don't > > use some wimpy encryption facility that comes with your > > operating system; it is probably not NSA-proof. (Actually, > > of course, unless you deliberately do something to make them > > suspicious--not recommended--, it is extremely unlikely that > > they'll ever check.) It would be really nice if it was > > easy and convenient to encrypt everything, including all > > voice communications. But almost nobody really cares about > > his privacy. Witness all those people who travel around with > > their cell phones turned on, making it possible to track > > them in real time. > > > > > > --Mixon > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > A fearless man cannot be brave. > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > You may "reply" to the address this message > > > > came from, but for long-term use, save: > > > > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > > > > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org > > or sa...@amcs-pubs.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >
