For RFID, you might not need a Faraday cage - you might just microwave it for a 
while. Should disable it. (never tried it though).

I am not sure that microwaving iPhone is a good idea in that sense :)

That's the spirit!

Katy



--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Brian Riordan <riordan.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Brian Riordan <riordan.br...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 6:03 PM
> Foil hat- I hear ya Joe!
> I'm currently working on building a compliant Faraday Cage
> to keep out
> Big Brother (who I'll from here on out I'll refer to as
> "Big Stepdad")
> I'm gonna call it the "Faraday Freedom Frock" (working
> title).
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage
> 
> If you don't mind eliminating any way for someone to call
> you, I
> believe there are cases comercially available to put your
> phone in to
> block any signals in or out, but then why carry
> phone?  Personally,
> I'm still a big fan of the pager.  There are also
> sleaves available
> for blocking RFID signals- passive and active (like the
> ones in the
> new passports).
> 
> As for physically taking data storage devices and searching
> them: what
> a crock!  If I really want to hide something, I'll
> have no problem
> disguising or hiding 2 gigs the size of my thumbnail. 
> What a waste of
> government resources (surprise!).
> 
> As for the teachers:  My wife is one of those teachers
> who "meekly
> gave up her right to privacy".  But of course, after 4
> years of school
> to teach they spring that rule on you, and there are plenty
> of people
> willing to be fingerprinted to get the job- what do you
> do?  If she
> kept her "privacy" she'd have to have 3 roomates to pay the
> bills.
> OR, give up her privacy so she could have enough money to
> have her own
> place (at the time).  It's just like the social
> security number: "not
> to be used as identification".  Try to get credit
> without one!
> 
> I disagree with it too, but not a lot of options...
> 
> -B
> 
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:43 AM, <jran...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The cell phone tracking is something I had read about
> but never gave a ton
> > of thought to until I bought the new iphone. On my
> first generation iphone
> > the tracking feature could put me in a 10 or 20 block
> area. A little close
> > for comfort but not awful. My new iphone without using
> gps often shows my
> > precise location to within 10-30 feet. It does this by
> triangulating my
> > location from the cell towers but then goes a step
> further using the wifi
> > networks nearby to greatly improve the accuracy. Using
> the built in
> > accelerometer the phone even knows what direction I am
> facing...
> >
> > I'm not entirely sure this makes me comfortable but
> then again I continue to
> > use it. I suppose the moral of the story is that if
> you need privacy don't
> > buy any portable electronic device.
> >
> > Heck, my cat has her own RFID chip. I used to think
> that using cash instead
> > of cards also helps but now I am hearing that the
> strips in new money can be
> > picked up by sensors at customs. I've not yet
> completely substantiated this
> > one yet...
> >
> > Time to get out my foil hat!
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sep 1, 2009 8:59am, Linda Palit <lkpa...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> >> The local grocery is about to require a
> fingerprint with check and
> >>
> >> identification, if you want to use a check.  It
> has been tested in Austin,
> >>
> >> etc, and seems to have worked out.  Babies and
> children are sometimes
> >>
> >> fingerprinted to use as comparison in the case of
> crimes.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anonymity is becoming rare and more difficult, and
> fingerprinting is
> >>
> >> associated with things much different than it once
> was.
> >>
> >> I put this in a different category than invading
> my personal laptop or
> >>
> >> tapping my phone, but in a digital age, perhaps it
> all runs together.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> From: Katy Roodenko [mailto:katy...@yahoo.com]
> >>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:50 AM
> >>
> >> To: Cavers Texas
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hm,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason
> come to visit USA) encrypt
> >>
> >> our fingerprints? I have never been to any as
> humiliating process as this
> >>
> >> one: being taken my fingerprints at the US
> border.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I guess it is really not the best way to make
> friends. I know many of my
> >>
> >> friends in Europe who would not come to USA
> precisely for this reason.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For whatever reasons, very recently, Texas
> Teachers were ordered to give
> >>
> >> their fingerprints as well. I expected riots and
> protests - but they went
> >>
> >> silently to gave up all their privacy as easily as
> that! What a KGB
> >> country
> >>
> >> of obedient society who shouts loudly on privacy
> but really forgot what
> >>
> >> "privacy" really means!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Really, if I had a kid, I would not like it to be
> educated by these
> >>
> >> teachers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Katy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > From: Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother
> related
> >>
> >> > To: "Mixon Bill" bmixon...@austin.rr.com>
> >>
> >> > Cc: "Cavers Texas" texascavers@texascavers.com>
> >>
> >> > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:10 AM
> >>
> >> > I figure if you re-constitute zeros and ones
> >>
> >> > on my computer with enough permutations, you
> can make up
> >>
> >> > just about anything including 9/11 plans and
> blueprints for
> >>
> >> > thermonuke devices.
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > I am all FOR encryption.   If its MY
> bizness, then it
> >>
> >> > should STAY my business.  As far as probing
> things I've
> >>
> >> > thought about and not done - well that is
> MINE ALONE.  Stay
> >>
> >> > out of my HEAD - FEDS!
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > And as far as tracking my relative position
> between cell
> >>
> >> > phone towers - How else can I receive a phone
> call when
> >>
> >> > I'm out and about?  But yeah - thanks for
> reminding me,
> >>
> >> > Bill - I should always remember to always
> turn it off when
> >>
> >> > I'm out there committing crimes!
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > -WaV
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 PM,
> >>
> >> > Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com>
> >>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Surely the authority of the customs people to
> inspect
> >>
> >> > vessels or vehicles applies only to those
> that have been
> >>
> >> > outside the United States?
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Anyway, there was an amusing thing in the
> news a few months
> >>
> >> > ago. Some guy came into the US from Canada
> and somehow the
> >>
> >> > customs people learned that there was kiddy
> porn on his
> >>
> >> > laptop computer and arrested him. However,
> the files were
> >>
> >> > encrypted, and even the feds were unable to
> break the
> >>
> >> > encryption and prove it. Courts ruled that
> the defendent
> >>
> >> > could not be required to give up the key to
> the code. (I
> >>
> >> > suspect this might have been a deliberate
> test case, with
> >>
> >> > the offending image deliberately out where
> the customs
> >>
> >> > inspector would see it.)
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Drive them crazy. Get PGP (Pretty Good
> Privacy) and encrypt
> >>
> >> > lots of perfectly innocent stuff on your
> computer. Don't
> >>
> >> > use some wimpy encryption facility that comes
> with your
> >>
> >> > operating system; it is probably not
> NSA-proof. (Actually,
> >>
> >> > of course, unless you deliberately do
> something to make them
> >>
> >> > suspicious--not recommended--, it is
> extremely unlikely that
> >>
> >> > they'll ever check.) It would be really nice
> if it was
> >>
> >> > easy and convenient to encrypt everything,
> including all
> >>
> >> > voice communications. But almost nobody
> really cares about
> >>
> >> > his privacy. Witness all those people who
> travel around with
> >>
> >> > their cell phones turned on, making it
> possible to track
> >>
> >> > them in real time.
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > --Mixon
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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