I was finger printed in 1975 when I went to work for UPS as a temp. Cindy
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Linda Palit <lkpa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Traditionally being fingerprinted was associated with being a criminal. > > This view is sure to change as it becomes so common. > > > > Probably this is becoming way off topic, and I am not meeting the word > limits, so enough of this for me. > > > > *From:* Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:23 PM > *To:* katy...@yahoo.com; Texas Cavers > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related > > > > I'm a federal employee. My prints have been on file for years. I do not > find it humiliating or feel that my privacy has been invaded. Why were you > so humiliated? Our country has suffered some terrible blows in recent years > from people disguised as friends. I'm not sure where you're from, but how > does your country verify the identification of foreign nationals? > > Louise > > > Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:49:50 -0700 > > From: katy...@yahoo.com > > To: texascavers@texascavers.com > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related > > > > Hm, > > > > Can we (the foreigners who for whatever reason come to visit USA) encrypt > our fingerprints? I have never been to any as humiliating process as this > one: being taken my fingerprints at the US border. > > > > I guess it is really not the best way to make friends. I know many of my > friends in Europe who would not come to USA precisely for this reason. > > > > For whatever reasons, very recently, Texas Teachers were ordered to give > their fingerprints as well. I expected riots and protests - but they went > silently to gave up all their privacy as easily as that! What a KGB country > of obedient society who shouts loudly on privacy but really forgot what > "privacy" really means! > > > > Really, if I had a kid, I would not like it to be educated by these > teachers. > > > > Katy > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > From: Don Cooper <wavyca...@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Big-Brother related > > > To: "Mixon Bill" <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> > > > Cc: "Cavers Texas" <texascavers@texascavers.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:10 AM > > > I figure if you re-constitute zeros and ones > > > on my computer with enough permutations, you can make up > > > just about anything including 9/11 plans and blueprints for > > > thermonuke devices. > > > > > > I am all FOR encryption. If its MY bizness, then it > > > should STAY my business. As far as probing things I've > > > thought about and not done - well that is MINE ALONE. Stay > > > out of my HEAD - FEDS! > > > > > > > > > And as far as tracking my relative position between cell > > > phone towers - How else can I receive a phone call when > > > I'm out and about? But yeah - thanks for reminding me, > > > Bill - I should always remember to always turn it off when > > > I'm out there committing crimes! > > > > > > > > > -WaV > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 PM, > > > Mixon Bill <bmixon...@austin.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Surely the authority of the customs people to inspect > > > vessels or vehicles applies only to those that have been > > > outside the United States? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, there was an amusing thing in the news a few months > > > ago. Some guy came into the US from Canada and somehow the > > > customs people learned that there was kiddy porn on his > > > laptop computer and arrested him. However, the files were > > > encrypted, and even the feds were unable to break the > > > encryption and prove it. Courts ruled that the defendent > > > could not be required to give up the key to the code. (I > > > suspect this might have been a deliberate test case, with > > > the offending image deliberately out where the customs > > > inspector would see it.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Drive them crazy. Get PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) and encrypt > > > lots of perfectly innocent stuff on your computer. Don't > > > use some wimpy encryption facility that comes with your > > > operating system; it is probably not NSA-proof. (Actually, > > > of course, unless you deliberately do something to make them > > > suspicious--not recommended--, it is extremely unlikely that > > > they'll ever check.) It would be really nice if it was > > > easy and convenient to encrypt everything, including all > > > voice communications. But almost nobody really cares about > > > his privacy. Witness all those people who travel around with > > > their cell phones turned on, making it possible to track > > > them in real time. > > > > > > > > > --Mixon > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > A fearless man cannot be brave. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > You may "reply" to the address this message > > > > > > came from, but for long-term use, save: > > > > > > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > > > > > > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org > > > or sa...@amcs-pubs.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > >
