Oh, alright. I offer to take over as Editor of the Texas Caver to free up Mark 
Alman, our TSA President, to focus on all of these more important TSA 
activities.

--- On Tue, 1/20/09, Don Arburn <donarb...@mac.com> wrote:

> 
> And so, my fellow cavers, ask not what the Caver can do for
> you - but what can I do for the Caver!
> 

> 
> On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Gill Ediger
> <gi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> > At 05:38 PM 1/19/2009, Geoff Hoese wrote:
> >> The TSA exists to serve the interests of its
> members.
> > 
> > Yes. But that's sorta like saying that motherhood
> is a good thing. It's pretty much unqualified.
> > 
> > There are a couple of sides to that argument, of
> course. One is completely selfish; the other is benevolent
> and fulfilling.
> > 
> > Over simplifying here, I will say that one only
> addresses the "What can I get for myself out of this
> organization? Then gimme it!" What they have in mind
> and what they get is pretty much an inanimate object in the
> form of The TEXAS CAVER. Their dues and that tangible object
> are related in their minds--one begats the other and vice
> versa. That the TSA never does anything else for them (or
> that they never expect for the TSA to do anything else for
> them) is of little consequence. In their minds one is the
> other. Aside from the pride and prestige of being a
> member--for whatever that's worth--they expect little
> more than The CAVER and infrequent (mostly non-caving)
> events where they can see old friends, sit around a campfire
> drinking beer, and telling war stories. Pretty exciting and
> fulfilling, huh?
> > 
> > Then there is the practical side of the "What can
> the TSA do for me?" contingent. They are the ones who
> are interested in the TSA 'making caving better for them
> and, benevolently, other cavers,' not just sending them
> a fancy publication. They ask several questions:
> >    How is the TSA working to solve problems caused by
> new or independent or non-cavers that affect my access to
> many caves?
> >    What is the TSA doing to prevent bad publicity?
> >    What is the TSA doing to encourage and promote good
> publicity?
> >    How is the TSA educating cavers to improve cave and
> landowner relations?
> >    How is the TSA promoting safe cave exploration?
> >    What is the TSA doing to educate non-cavers as to
> the dangers of cave environment and ground water polution?
> >    How is the TSA reaching out to new cavers to
> encourage them to join their fellow cavers in the TSA?
> >    What is the TSA doing to educate new cavers about
> established techniques and equipment and all cavers in
> timely advances in those fields?
> >    How is the TSA promoting the discovery of new
> caves?
> >    How is anything the TSA is doing contributing to
> making caving better for me and my friends and, even, for
> cavers I will never know or come in contact with?
> >    In short, how is the TSA affecting my caving
> positively?
> > 
> > These--and more--are the questions that caver members
> of the TSA could claim that the TSA ought to be responding
> to for its members. In numbers there is strength and the
> more caver-members that the TSA has the larger the caver
> base and collective skills and knowledge and man power it
> has to pursue its goals and purposes--all to the benefit of
> each other and the various entities of the
> 'association'--not just the narrow "me, me,
> me" mentality of newsletter only members. And that is
> something not so tangible as The TEXAS CAVER but much more
> valuable as a service to cavers and caving in the long run.
> The TSA--the Texas Region--was formed by cavers who strived
> to attract all (or as many as posible) cavers into a
> common-interest group which could better address mutual
> caving problems (landowner relations, safety, training,
> creature comforts) and increase a caver's sphere of
> acquaintences within the caving community--again to
> members' individual and mutual benefit. It was so
> important that they wrote that into their first constitution
> as a part of their goals and purposes. You can read that as
> a benefit: more friends means more opportunity to go on more
> trips to explore more caves and more and diverse knowledge
> about caves and equipment and techniques and all sorts of
> other intangible but significantly valuable perks that most
> cavers would appreciate. That (or those) would seem to me to
> be the sort of things that the TSA should pursue in order
> "to serve the interests of its members".
> Understand, for sure, that The TEXAS CAVER is an important
> vector in that pursuit of those goals and purposes. It is
> chock-full of excactly the kind of information that the new
> and independent caver ought to be receiving from the TSA in
> pursuit of it's goals and purposes--and those of our
> fellow, but unknown, cavers. But if they don't receive
> The CAVER, if they aren't attracted to join the TSA, how
> will they know? How will that "serve the interests of
> its members?"
> > 
> > While The TEXAS CAVER is a valuable, tangible tool of
> the TSA in the pursuit of its goals and purposes, it is the
> intangible tools that the TSA provides (or should provide)
> its members that give it the ability "to serve the
> interests of its members" which, ostensibly, is the
> pursuit of caving. So long as someone is still an active
> caver it's the interface with other active cavers and
> the mutual well-being of them all that ought to receive the
> primary effort and attention of the TSA. To have all these
> new cavers appear on the scene each year and not get free
> copies of The CAVER and the included propaganda and
> educational material and inducement to join is nothing short
> of irresponsible for an organization that is mandated in its
> constitution to serve those cavers and their goals. Those
> several arm chair caver members of the TSA who are selfishly
> interested only in getting their copy of The TEXAS CAVER in
> exchange for their dues should understand that there is a
> broader scope of responsibilities that the TSA has to its
> active members and to those recurring new cavers and
> non-members who have the potential to be contributing
> members of the TSA and The TEXAS CAVER--in order "to
> serve the interests of its members" more thoroughly.
> Active caver TSA members should demand to get their fair
> share of member benefits above and beyond The TEXAS CAVER.
> Instead of "What can the TSA do for me?" the
> question ought to be "What can the TSA do for Texas
> caving which will in turn make caving better for me?"
> > 
> > --Ediger
> > 
> > 
> >
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