Sir,
I glance through all postings. Respond when I feel to respond. 

Gpalakrishnan

    On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 05:27:12 pm IST, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 I am not a genius.But I have to be satisfied with my capacity.Using it I write 
my own perceptions.Rarely I get response,I usually get response from Sri 
Rajaram.But none even appear to notice.Today I wrote my own idea about the 
'Role of Theism'.No response from anyone.Afterall one could have responded to 
it with one's own learning,about which there must be great perceptions in 
many.But this unpleasant war continues.I of course do not read most.Strange,own 
perceptions die everyday without response,but still I start my morning with a 
fresh morning write up,eagerly waiting for the continuation and expansion of 
the thought a futile earning.YM
On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:10 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 Dear Mr Sekar,
As a group member, not able to tolerate any more the exchanges between members 
Mr Rajaram, Sri Nrayanaswamy, Mr LN Sharma and myself,
Your observations are 95% correct.I agree."NOBODY involved in the exchanges 
comes out smelling roses"."Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS 
not".
I put it at 95% because my involvement is limited to language correction and  
oppose to allegations. I swear I have not used any abusing words at any member 
in any language.  I am ready to take excuse if any member point out that I have 
used abusing words in any language 

Gopalakrishnan




    On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 02:19:02 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
To: <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. 
<[email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <[email protected]>, 
Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer 
<[email protected]>


Thanks.
I have written earlier also but did not want to harp on that point again and 
again lest I would become the target.
 I hope to be understood in the spirit in which this is written and hope not to 
be subjected to any verbal onslaught - erudite, scholarly or otherwise - in 
whatever language.
My earlier request still stands which I repeat now:
If at all you have to use toxic words, IF AT ALL,  pl go ahead BUT please stop, 
please, please for Heaven's sake, STOP targeting someone's  mother - she is not 
responsible for any real, imagined, perceived mistake , error or indecent or 
improper behaviour of any contributor.
So is calling someone " Bastard".  Let us remember we all have our mothers 
before we write anything abusive about any other woman, especially when that 
person is not a party to these disgusting, deplorable, detestable and downright 
condemnable exchanges.
Our religion teaches us to look to any woman, other than our wives, as our 
mother and let us remember that before we abuse any mother. While doing so, we 
in fact denigrate our own mothers.
The language used in some correspondences does not behove of any decent, 
cultured person, leave alone educated ones. This charade is going on for a long 
time and is testing everybody's patience. Let us cease and desist from using 
vulgar, demeaning, indecent, toxic language.
This is applicable to all the languages used - English, Tamizh, Malayalam and 
to ALL involved. Let not any one person claim any moral high ground. Nobody, 
repeat NOBODY involved in the exchanges comes out smelling roses.
Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS not.
If any answer in the Q & A is incorrect, then whoever wants to correct it, 
correct it BUT NOT call the question or the reply stupid,  senseless etc. 
Each has a different opinion and it is just that- an opinion.
I don't think God has appointed anybody as His Sole Agent to call anybody else 
names.
Hope better sense will prevail. 
N Sekar 



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  On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM, Rama<[email protected]> wrote:   What is 
required is NOT the tutorials in any language but in general behavior in a 
Group forum. The use of abusive languages has reached beyond limits and 
boundaries. The so-called elderly and revered gentleman ( as adorned by a 
member) throws out abuses at his whims and fancies, even disrespecting Mothers 
in the process. What is the use of possessing "wealth of Knowledge" ?One 
gentleman "swears" by God but subsequently uses filthiest language thus 
displaying an alarming lack of social conscience. I have not known any of these 
gentlemen personally but only through this social media of Iyer group to which 
I am a member since last 2 decades. I have never come across such abusive 
languages which has now become a recent phenomena too often discrediting 
themselves by engaging in character assassination. In all the exchanges I have 
observed that one particular gentleman (Sh Rajaram) is targeted.  He  too 
posses a wealth of knowledge and his immense contribution in variety of 
subjects is to be appreciated. Indeed he  has good command of  languages and 
writing skills in  English ,Tamil, Sanskrit and Hindi.  Many a times I have 
seen,  he has translated verses for easy understanding.  Of course there may be 
some default errors that goes unnoticed while typing in the electronic media 
after all it is human I do agree that he also retaliates with equal force but 
he is not a saint or Mahatma to be at the receiving  end all times. 
While writing the above, i do not  mean any offence to anybody. It is all in 
good spirits. Let us have a harmonious relationship with each in this group. 
Let us respect each other for their well being. Cheers Rama

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 10:51, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 Yes sir,
 Many of us will be benefited if you conduct tutorial on English leaving 
responding to a  never correct, never admit arguing  and calling others having 
bogus position member in the group. 

Gopalakrishnan

    On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 10:34:43 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 Most Respected Narayanaswamy Anna
A humble prayer to your goodself 
Apart from sharing your infinite knowledge and with us, can you kindly do us 
another favour?
Would it be too much if i request you to kindly conduct  tutorials for basic 
English language skills to enable us not only to improve our language skills 
but also equip us with the ability to make sense of the gibberish that passes 
off as "learned responses" in language  stranger than the Martian lingo?  



On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 7:11 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear folks
He is here again !
Unlearned, unschooled, uneducated nonentity K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 discharging 
another truckload of obscene horse-shit and male bovine excreta in his 
drain-gutter-sewer broken English.
And screaming and shooting his head off with his habitual incomprehensible, 
ungrammatical, incorrect nonsense.
"SINDU MUDITHAL, for example, is neither Sanskrit nor Thamizh.  It is a 
miscegenated (bastard) word which tries to unite illegitimately the Sanskrit 
word for the Indus River with the Thamizh word for "knotting" or "ending".
Just one more instance of the vagrant street-gangster-rowdy's non-knowledge of 
our Indian classical and our modern living languages.
The cement-brained stone-skulled perpetual idiot talks about something 
non-existent and concocted by his incurable insanity and senility.:-
"I challenged because of your nudgetry."
Further proof that the castrated unmitigated permanent idiot has lost his nuts.
"You write nonsensical observations of my post , English etc only as a ROAD 
THUG."
Pot calling the kettle black?  Vagrant unlearned unschooled uneducated 
street-fighter labelling someone else as a "road thug", when it is itself 
scouring the dark unlitback-lanes and side-streets of Red Dogtown hunting for 
potential clients for its confessed professional sex worker mother?
"I care two hoots.
The mousing owl hiding in the recesses of a ruined tower identifying itself non 
pareil?
"The corrupt minds wag their tails.   I cannot help it."
Self-confessed NAYUNDA MAVEN revealing his ancestry and his  canine 
cement-filled mind?
"Others have obligations; I do not have anything to fear."
He forgets his obligations not to lie but to tell the truth.  Not to defame 
others.  Not to use filthy words.  Not to misread, not to misunderstand, not to 
mis-translate, not to mis-publish extracts from our vedams, our puraanams and 
other scriptures.
He has to fear being stipped of his pretensions and having his nonsense exposed 
to public gaze, and to be proved an unmitigated stupid fool again and again
"Every good question against the vedic structures were answered in upanishads, 
Puranas and other texts, by Rishis.
The structure of r'g-vedam is such that it is full of holes like a Swiss 
cheese.  And these holes are stuffed with verses stolen from the yajur-vedam.  
Including the opening and concluding verses.
Which upanishad, puranam and other text, by rishis explains why this is so?
S Narayanaswamy Iyer




On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Mr Gopala krishnan        In sanskrit and many languages they say: SINDU 
MUDITHAL; i APPRECIATE EVERY ONE; i WRITE ON EVERYONE'S AIRING MY VIEWS; SO I 
HAVE NOTHING TO ENVY ABOUT ANYONE; I WRITE ALWAYS --ALL SHOULD WRITE. Then 
where is the new theory of yours? You are writing good about some general 
topics; rarely under Q and A at times you write good; and I had given my 
appreciations; but you do not know at 89 to move good with people or write 
perfect for your age; you are carried away by misconceptions as your friend 
Narayanasamy and another; I challenged because of your nudgetry, 1 you 
Gopalakrishnan till date -did not write that I am wrong, by evidentiary 
establishment, because, when you turn the pages, the truth is laughing at 
you!!;  hence out of great frustrations, you write nonsensical observations of 
my post , English etc only as a ROAD THUG. See when you present one, you get 
back ten. Learn to behave, write, rebut strongly as I do. It is the same 
position with Narayansamy who cannot do anything better; so neti and adverse 
marks blended with abuses tying in my family whom he did not know and incurring 
tonnes of sin. I care two hoots because I AM CLEAR IN MY MIND.  Honesty is not 
frightened but the corrupt minds wag their tails. I cannot help it. Why even 
few good people were also enticed by  pressure from the community and other 
fore-seen reasons. Tan nenrivadhu poyyarkka poythain than nenje thannaich 
chudum; hence those side tracks will come back. But you three cannot be 
redeemed at all. When many are running away from you three, I am not afraid of 
you three at all, why?  Others have obligations; I do not have anything to 
fear. Now your sindu with Bala Iyer, I wrote that I will meet his view also, in 
spite of the right question he raised; read it again. So you 3 have no 
knowledge of matter (as you said GAYA srardham,  is end of all sradham which 
you are still evading; you do such things often; evading ; ) ; you 3 who cannot 
do anything better , feels hitting at , which is never ever a loss to me, 
because , stupids are not forces to reckon with. Bala iyer's question is 
relevant; even I had asked such questions in these forums, which is not yet 
answered by any one. But every good question against the vedic structures were 
answered in upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis; so one shall not 
question Vedas  is also right as well as right questions must be clarified, if 
known; so what Mr Bala Iyer raised waas NETI or your type of nagations; how by 
adopting gotra can be changed is relevant question; and i said I will write 
shortly; content to content is not like yours Gopala. So forget the sindu 
mudithal and live righteously; whatever you 3 do nothing can be done against 
the dharma. Thank you And as long as you raise your funny flag I shall put it 
down. K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23
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From: 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:44
Subject: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>, 
Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Patty Thatha 
<[email protected]>


Respected sir,
You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. Otherwise this 
much of negations must not have come from him. He is not able to tolerate more 
qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from his responses with Bala N 
iyer. 

Gopalakrishnan


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