Thanks Sri G K.

Let us hope at least hereafter we will have decent exchanges befitting a
group consisting largely of senior citizens who are educated and have held
senior positions.

May be because I lost my mother soon after I started earning ( could not do
much when she was alive, most of it went to meet her medical costs) I feel
immense pain and anguish when any other mother is insulted. I see no reason
why one's mother needs to be dragged into what is essentially an ego fight
between any two members.

When we say Mata, Pita, Guru , Deivam and mean it, we cannot disparage any
mother.

If we have to disagree , let us do it in an agreeable manner.

As the saying goes

" We can disagree without being disagreeable".

I will stop with this on this topic.

N Sekar

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On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:27 PM, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu
<[email protected]> wrote:
I am not a genius.But I have to be satisfied with my capacity.Using it I
write my own perceptions.Rarely I get response,I usually get response from
Sri Rajaram.
But none even appear to notice.Today I wrote my own idea about the 'Role of
Theism'.No response from anyone.Afterall one could have responded to it
with one's own learning,about which there must be great perceptions in many.
But this unpleasant war continues.I of course do not read most.Strange,own
perceptions die everyday without response,but still I start my morning with
a fresh morning write up,eagerly waiting for the continuation and expansion
of the thought a futile earning.
YM

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:10 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

Dear Mr Sekar,

As a group member, not able to tolerate any more the exchanges between
members Mr Rajaram, Sri Nrayanaswamy, Mr LN Sharma and myself,

Your observations are 95% correct.I agree."NOBODY involved in the exchanges
comes out smelling roses"."Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent,
he IS not".

I put it at 95% because my involvement is limited to *language correction
and  oppose to allegations*.
*I swear I have not used any abusing words at any member in any language.
I am ready to take excuse if any member point out that I have used abusing
words in any language *

Gopalakrishnan




On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 02:19:02 pm IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar <
[email protected]> wrote:




---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: *'N Sekar' via iyer123* <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
To: <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, Rangarajan
T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. <
[email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>,
Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>


Thanks.

I have written earlier also but did not want to harp on that point again
and again lest I would become the target.

 I hope to be understood in the spirit in which this is written and hope
not to be subjected to any verbal onslaught - erudite, scholarly or
otherwise - in whatever language.

My earlier request still stands which I repeat now:

If at all you have to use toxic words, IF AT ALL,  pl go ahead BUT please
stop, please, please for Heaven's sake, STOP targeting someone's  mother -
she is not responsible for any real, imagined, perceived mistake , error or
indecent or improper behaviour of any contributor.

So is calling someone " Bastard".  Let us remember we all have our mothers
before we write anything abusive about any other woman, especially when
that person is not a party to these disgusting, deplorable, detestable and
downright condemnable exchanges.

Our religion teaches us to look to any woman, other than our wives, as our
mother and let us remember that before we abuse any mother. While doing so,
we in fact denigrate our own mothers.

The language used in some correspondences does not behove of any decent,
cultured person, leave alone educated ones. This charade is going on for a
long time and is testing everybody's patience. Let us cease and desist from
using vulgar, demeaning, indecent, toxic language.

This is applicable to all the languages used - English, Tamizh, Malayalam
and to ALL involved. Let not any one person claim any moral high ground.
Nobody, repeat NOBODY involved in the exchanges comes out smelling roses.

Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS not.

If any answer in the Q & A is incorrect, then whoever wants to correct it,
correct it BUT NOT call the question or the reply stupid,  senseless etc.

Each has a different opinion and it is just that- an opinion.

I don't think God has appointed anybody as His Sole Agent to call anybody
else names.

Hope better sense will prevail.

N Sekar




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On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM, Rama
<[email protected]> wrote:
What is required is NOT the tutorials in any language but in general
behavior in a Group forum. The use of abusive languages has reached beyond
limits and boundaries.
The so-called elderly and revered gentleman ( as adorned by a member)
throws out abuses at his whims and fancies, even disrespecting Mothers in
the process. What is the use of possessing "wealth of Knowledge" ?
One gentleman "swears" by God but subsequently uses filthiest language thus
displaying an alarming lack of social conscience.
I have not known any of these gentlemen personally but only through this
social media of Iyer group to which I am a member since last 2 decades. I
have never come across such abusive languages which has now become a recent
phenomena too often discrediting themselves by engaging in character
assassination.
In all the exchanges I have observed that one particular gentleman (Sh
Rajaram) is targeted.  He  too posses a wealth of knowledge and his immense
contribution in variety of subjects is to be appreciated. Indeed he  has
good command of  languages and writing skills in  English ,Tamil, Sanskrit
and Hindi.  Many a times I have seen,  he has translated verses for easy
understanding.  Of course there may be some default errors that goes
unnoticed while typing in the electronic media after all it is human
I do agree that he also retaliates with equal force but he is not a saint
or Mahatma to be at the receiving  end all times.

While writing the above, i do not  mean any offence to anybody. It is all
in good spirits. Let us have a harmonious relationship with each in this
group. Let us respect each other for their well being.
Cheers
Rama


On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 10:51, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

Yes sir,

 Many of us will be benefited if you conduct tutorial on English leaving
responding to a  never correct, never admit arguing  and calling others
having bogus position member in the group.

Gopalakrishnan

On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 10:34:43 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma <
[email protected]> wrote:


*Most Respected Narayanaswamy Anna*

*A humble prayer to your goodself *

*Apart from sharing your infinite knowledge and with us, can you kindly do
us another favour?*

*Would it be too much if i request you to kindly conduct  tutorials for
basic English language skills to enable us not only to improve our language
skills but also equip us with the ability to make sense of the gibberish
that passes off as "learned responses" in language  stranger than the
Martian lingo?  *




On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 7:11 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]>
wrote:

Dear folks

He is here again !

Unlearned, unschooled, uneducated nonentity K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 discharging
another truckload of obscene horse-shit and male bovine excreta in his
drain-gutter-sewer broken English.

And screaming and shooting his head off with his habitual incomprehensible,
ungrammatical, incorrect nonsense.

"*SINDU MUDITHAL*, for example, is neither Sanskrit nor Thamizh.  It is a
miscegenated (bastard) word which tries to unite illegitimately the
Sanskrit word for the Indus River with the Thamizh word for "knotting" or
"ending".

Just one more instance of the vagrant street-gangster-rowdy's non-knowledge
of our Indian classical and our modern living languages.

The cement-brained stone-skulled perpetual idiot talks about something
non-existent and concocted by his incurable insanity and senility.:-

"*I challenged because of your nudgetry."*

Further proof that the castrated unmitigated permanent idiot has lost his
nuts.

"*You write nonsensical observations of my post , English etc only as a
ROAD THUG."*

Pot calling the kettle black?  Vagrant unlearned unschooled uneducated
street-fighter labelling someone else as a "road thug", when it is itself
scouring the dark unlitback-lanes and side-streets of Red Dogtown hunting
for potential clients for its confessed professional sex worker mother?

*"**I care two hoots*.

The mousing owl hiding in the recesses of a ruined tower identifying itself
non pareil?

"*T**he corrupt minds wag their tails*.  * I cannot help it.*"

Self-confessed NAYUNDA MAVEN revealing his ancestry and his  canine
cement-filled mind?

"*Others have obligations; I do not have anything to fear*."

He forgets his obligations not to lie but to tell the truth.  Not to defame
others.  Not to use filthy words.  Not to misread, not to misunderstand,
not to mis-translate, not to mis-publish extracts from our vedams, our
puraanams and other scriptures.

He has to fear being stipped of his pretensions and having his nonsense
exposed to public gaze, and to be proved an unmitigated stupid fool again
and again

"*Every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis.*

The structure of r'g-vedam is such that it is full of holes like a Swiss
cheese.  And these holes are stuffed with verses stolen from the
yajur-vedam.  Including the opening and concluding verses.

Which upanishad, puranam and other text, by rishis explains why this is so?

S Narayanaswamy Iyer





On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

Mr Gopala krishnan
        In sanskrit and many languages they say: SINDU MUDITHAL; i
APPRECIATE EVERY ONE; i WRITE ON EVERYONE'S AIRING MY VIEWS; SO I HAVE
NOTHING TO ENVY ABOUT ANYONE; I WRITE ALWAYS --ALL SHOULD WRITE. Then where
is the new theory of yours? You are writing good about some general topics;
rarely under Q and A at times you write good; and I had given my
appreciations; but you do not know at 89 to move good with people or write
perfect for your age; you are carried away by misconceptions as your friend
Narayanasamy and another; I challenged because of your nudgetry, 1 you
Gopalakrishnan till date -did not write that I am wrong, by evidentiary
establishment, because, when you turn the pages, the truth is laughing at
you!!;  hence out of great frustrations, you write nonsensical observations
of my post , English etc only as a ROAD THUG. See when you present one, you
get back ten. Learn to behave, write, rebut strongly as I do. It is the
same position with Narayansamy who cannot do anything better; so neti and
adverse marks blended with abuses tying in my family whom he did not know
and incurring tonnes of sin. I care two hoots because I AM CLEAR IN MY
MIND.  Honesty is not frightened but the corrupt minds wag their tails. I
cannot help it. Why even few good people were also enticed by  pressure
from the community and other fore-seen reasons. Tan nenrivadhu poyyarkka
poythain than nenje thannaich chudum; hence those side tracks will come
back. But you three cannot be redeemed at all. When many are running away
from you three, I am not afraid of you three at all, why?  Others have
obligations; I do not have anything to fear. Now your sindu with Bala Iyer,
I wrote that I will meet his view also, in spite of the right question he
raised; read it again. So you 3 have no knowledge of matter (as you said
GAYA srardham,  is end of all sradham which you are still evading; you do
such things often; evading ; ) ; you 3 who cannot do anything better ,
feels hitting at , which is never ever a loss to me, because , stupids are
not forces to reckon with. Bala iyer's question is relevant; even I had
asked such questions in these forums, which is not yet answered by any one.
But every good question against the vedic structures were answered in
upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis; so one shall not question
Vedas  is also right as well as right questions must be clarified, if
known; so what Mr Bala Iyer raised waas NETI or your type of nagations; how
by adopting gotra can be changed is relevant question; and i said I will
write shortly; content to content is not like yours Gopala. So forget the
sindu mudithal and live righteously; whatever you 3 do nothing can be done
against the dharma. Thank you And as long as you raise your funny flag I
shall put it down. K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23

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From: *'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers* <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:44
Subject: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Iyer <[email protected]>,
Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Patty Thatha <
[email protected]>


Respected sir,

You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. Otherwise
this much of negations must not have come from him. He is not able to
tolerate more qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from his
responses with Bala N iyer.

Gopalakrishnan

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