My appeal is as futile as the voice of nature now in economic murder.I do not find posts about saving nature,but only the unending posts about 'Envious Nature'.Sri Rajaram,I must thank invariably, gives his responsive great contributions,often raising the level. When one finds fault with another the objective is to make the person lose self esteem and self respect.Unfortunately this is the motivation in trading insults. Physical harm can be cured.But insults when they injure become the permanent injuring feature of one's internal hormonal communication and are incurable. YM
On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 9:08 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Tathastu; Also I propose to write the tenali Rama story of straightening > the tail of an animal; ;thanks for ex irs etc which is supposed to be a > provocation generally thought; and if it is not me well thanks KR IRS > 281223 all pl checl who is tossing the coin > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 19:54 > Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature > To: iyer <[email protected]>, Laxminarayan Sarma < > [email protected]>, SRIRAMAJAYAM <[email protected]>, N. > Sekar <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan < > [email protected]>, Ranganathan <[email protected]> > Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > > > Dear Sri Laxminarayan Sarma > > Recently, you wrote to Sriman SRIRAMAJAYAM, N Sekar, rama, A R > Ranganathan, Gopalakrishnan, and me, among others, saying:- > > "*How i wish if people certifying someone as follows had the ability to > distinguish* > * grains of gold from chaff"* > > and followed it by quoting in extenso five closely-knit lines of > saccharine salivating appreciation by an adoring and admiring somebody of a > frequent corrosive contributor to the Internet. > > We now have a detailed response from KR ex-IRS 27 12 23, who obviously > imagines you were indirectly addressing him. He says, inter alia:- > > "*In China, it is believed that the winnowing technique has been applied > to gold ore since ancient times....... The original gold winnowing process > was a dry separation technique, accomplished by wrapping sandy gold ore in > a woollen blanket, which was then shaken up and down by two men . In the > process, the gold particles were triboelectrically charged and attached to > the blanket. Then, the blanket was opened, and the material was tossed into > the air, causing the sand particles to blow away.......... The winnowing > technique was developed in pharaonic times to separate wheat from chaff. > Evidence now indicates that winnowing was also used to separate gold in > ancient Egypt."* > > So, besides being an expert professor of English, Tamil, Sanskrit, and > Hindi languages, both spoken and written, the adored worshipful super-human > genius is also an expert in Chinese, Californian, and Egyptian methods of > winnowing "sandy gold ore", tossing it into the air and, against all the > laws of gravity, simply blowing the heavy sandy ore away and retrieving the > gold. > > Shall we next hear that the professor of gold-mining is an alchemist, has > the Midas touch and turns everything he touches into gold, and also has the > philosopher's stone whereby he can turn lead into gold? > > S Nrayanaswamy Iyer > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:35 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Gold deposits in dry regions have always provided the motivation to >> develop dry beneficiation techniques, although such technologies are >> significantly less efficient than wet beneficiation. In China, it is >> believed that the winnowing technique has been applied to gold ore since >> ancient times. Unfortunately, no verifiable evidence has been found to >> substantiate this claim. Chinese miners brought this dry separation process >> to California during the 19th century >> [image: image.png] >> >> Fig. 7. Gold winnowing (A) in 19th century California near a Chinese camp >> , (B) in ancient Egypt , and (C) as detailed in the tomb decoration of the >> Mastaba of Mereruka at Saqqara, 2300 BC . >> >> The original gold winnowing process was a dry separation technique, >> accomplished by wrapping sandy gold ore in a woollen blanket, which was >> then shaken up and down by two men . In the process, the gold particles >> were triboelectrically charged and attached to the blanket. Then, the >> blanket was opened, and the material was tossed into the air, causing the >> sand particles to blow away. The coarse gold particles remaining on the >> blanket were collected by hand picking, and the finer gold particles >> were detached by intense mechanical stress. This dry process does not leave >> artifacts, confirming the above-mentioned results from mining archaeology. >> Additionally, dry tailing sites do not solidify as wet tailings do and thus >> disappear rapidly. >> >> >> >> The winnowing technique was developed in pharaonic times to separate >> wheat from chaff. Evidence now indicates that winnowing was also used to >> separate gold in ancient Egypt. The Egyptian symbol for gold (nub) may >> depict a tool used for gold beneficiation . Egyptologists Rossellini and >> Lepsius interpreted the nub character as a bag or blanket with hanging ends >> in which the grains of gold were separated, but they assumed this >> represented a wet treatment. Additional evidence of gold production in >> ancient Egypt can be found in tomb decorations. The images in Fig. 7B and C >> depict a process similar in principle to that in Fig. 7A. However, the real >> significance of the reliefs in Fig. 7C is controversial. KR IRS 27 12 23 >> >> II குறள் 96 <https://www.ytamizh.com/thirukural/kural-96/>: *அல்லவை >> தேய அறம்பெருகும் நல்லவை **நாடி இனிய சொலின்.* >> >> பிறர்க்கு நன்மையானவற்றை நாடி இனிமை உடையச் சொற்களைச் சொல்லின், பாவங்கள் >> தேய்ந்து குறைய அறம் வளர்ந்து பெருகும். >> >> Who seeks out good, words from his lips of sweetness flow; >> In him the power of vice declines, and virtues grow >> Couplet Explanation: >> >> If a man, while seeking to speak usefully, speaks also sweetly, his sins >> will diminish and his virtue increase >> Transliteration(Tamil to English): >> >> allavai theya aRamperukum nallavai >> naadi iniya solin KR IRS 27 12 23 >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: SRIRAMAJAYAM <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 at 09:17 >> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature >> To: iyer <[email protected]> >> Cc: Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]>, N. Sekar < >> [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>, Rama < >> [email protected]>, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>, ARR < >> [email protected]>, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]>, Mathangi k kumar <[email protected]> >> >> >> நடந்தவை நடந்ததாக இருக்கட்டும். >> நடப்பவை நல்லதாக >> இருக்கட்டும். >> நல்லதை பாராட்டி >> அல்லாததை மறப்போம். >> நட்பினை போற்றி >> கருத்தாய் வளர்ப்போம். >> 🙏 >> நம்மை நாமே விரும்புவோம். >> நமக்கு துணை ஞாலமே. >> நமது பார்வை >> நல்ல பார்வையாகட்டும். >> நல்லதே தொடரும் >> நல்லதே நடக்கட்டும் >> நல்லதே நிலைக்கட்டும். >> நண்பர்கள் பெருகட்டும். >> 🙏 >> நட்பு நிலைத்திட >> உறவுக்கு உரமாய் >> என்றென்றும் வாழ்ந்திட >> புத்தாண்டில் >> உறுதி பூண்டு >> இன்று துவங்கி >> என்றென்றும் >> பிறழாமல் >> நல் வாழ்வு >> வாழ்ந்திடுவோம் நாமே. >> வாருங்கள் >> அறிவுசால் ஆசான்களே >> 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 >> இதயங்கனிந்த >> இனிய >> புத்தாண்டு >> நல்வாழ்த்துக்கள் >> 🙏🙏🙏🙏 >> >> On Wed, 27 Dec, 2023, 6:28 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear folks >>> >>> So long as there is no provocation and no resort to Thamizh abuses, >>> obscenities and blasphemies, there will be no robust rebuttals. >>> >>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:36 PM Laxminarayan Sarma < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Point well taken, Sri Sekar-ji. Let's hope the present is buried and we >>>> open a new chapter >>>> >>>> With respectful regards, Sir >>>> >>>> On Tue, 26 Dec, 2023, 8:55 pm Narayanaswamy Sekar, <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Sir, >>>>> >>>>> As you have addressed me in my personal Mail id (this >>>>> [email protected]) I take it your remarks abour rooting for one >>>>> member included me. Yes, I took exception to members' mothers being >>>>> brought into a needless brawl but I did not stop there but also stated >>>>> >>>>> No one comes out smelling Roses >>>>> >>>>> No one can claim any moral superiority >>>>> >>>>> And >>>>> >>>>> No one can claim he is innocent. >>>>> >>>>> That should explain my stand. I supported nobody and didn't condemn >>>>> any one in particular. >>>>> >>>>> Even though I stated in my last Mail that it will be my last, I break >>>>> that promise just to clarify to you because you served in the Army which I >>>>> hold in very high esteem. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't think I am showing off, let me say that I include our >>>>> Armed Forces whenever I perform any Archana or Homam. This habit of mine >>>>> has raised a few eyebrows of the Kurukkals, and Sastrigals, besides those >>>>> standing near enough to me who can hear my Sankalpam. >>>>> >>>>> At Kedarnath, the priest refused to accept any Dakshina ( he demanded >>>>> a rather big sum initially) saying he cannot accept any Dakshina for an >>>>> Archana (including a short Homam) which included our Armed forces. >>>>> >>>>> We sleep peacefully because we are aware that your tribe keeps awake >>>>> 24/365 to ensure our safety. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards >>>>> N Sekar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 7:40 PM Laxminarayan Sarma < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Gentlemen >>>>>> >>>>>> It's great that a few of our learned members have finally chosen to >>>>>> speak up. >>>>>> >>>>>> While i believe that this intervention will stem the barrage of the >>>>>> almost perennial Saraswati Vilasam ( of which, i confess, i am also >>>>>> guilty) >>>>>> witnessed in this Forum since months, let me hasten to add, that Shri >>>>>> Gopalakrishnan and I were compelled to step in to stem the flood >>>>>> >>>>>> Both Shri Gopalakrishnan-ji and I were gentle, politely persuadive >>>>>> and respectful in the beginning but miserably failed under a torrent of >>>>>> vile abuses, profuse obscenities in Tamil. I will not name the person >>>>>> whom >>>>>> i am referring to. >>>>>> >>>>>> In true Gandhian spirit we turned the other cheek. But our efforts >>>>>> bore no fruit. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, honestly speaking, every member was a mute spectator? >>>>>> >>>>>> So , as they say in Hindi ईंट का जवाब पत्थर से, we had to respond in >>>>>> like coin. Shri Gopalkrishnan-ji used milder language. But not i. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rooting for one participant in particular is not kosher. Each one of >>>>>> is well read, knowledgable, we all possess multiple language skills , >>>>>> some >>>>>> are linguists, and a few are polyglots. So let's not promote any one >>>>>> individual claiming he's exceptional, implying thereby that the rest of >>>>>> us >>>>>> belong to an inferior species. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's hope that this verbal feud will end now and things revert to >>>>>> normalcy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 26 Dec, 2023, 7:06 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Mr Sekar >>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 06:29:47 pm IST, Narayanaswamy >>>>>>> Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Sri G K. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let us hope at least hereafter we will have decent exchanges >>>>>>> befitting a group consisting largely of senior citizens who are educated >>>>>>> and have held senior positions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> May be because I lost my mother soon after I started earning ( could >>>>>>> not do much when she was alive, most of it went to meet her medical >>>>>>> costs) >>>>>>> I feel immense pain and anguish when any other mother is insulted. I >>>>>>> see no >>>>>>> reason why one's mother needs to be dragged into what is essentially an >>>>>>> ego >>>>>>> fight between any two members. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When we say Mata, Pita, Guru , Deivam and mean it, we cannot >>>>>>> disparage any mother. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we have to disagree , let us do it in an agreeable manner. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As the saying goes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> " We can disagree without being disagreeable". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will stop with this on this topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N Sekar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>>> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:27 PM, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> I am not a genius.But I have to be satisfied with my capacity.Using >>>>>>> it I write my own perceptions.Rarely I get response,I usually get >>>>>>> response >>>>>>> from Sri Rajaram. >>>>>>> But none even appear to notice.Today I wrote my own idea about the >>>>>>> 'Role of Theism'.No response from anyone.Afterall one could have >>>>>>> responded >>>>>>> to it with one's own learning,about which there must be great >>>>>>> perceptions >>>>>>> in many. >>>>>>> But this unpleasant war continues.I of course do not read >>>>>>> most.Strange,own perceptions die everyday without response,but still I >>>>>>> start my morning with a fresh morning write up,eagerly waiting for the >>>>>>> continuation and expansion of the thought a futile earning. >>>>>>> YM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:10 PM 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Mr Sekar, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a group member, not able to tolerate any more the exchanges >>>>>>> between members Mr Rajaram, Sri Nrayanaswamy, Mr LN Sharma and myself, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your observations are 95% correct.I agree."NOBODY involved in the >>>>>>> exchanges comes out smelling roses"."Also let not anyone claim that he >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> innocent, he IS not". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I put it at 95% because my involvement is limited to *language >>>>>>> correction and oppose to allegations*. >>>>>>> *I swear I have not used any abusing words at any member in any >>>>>>> language. I am ready to take excuse if any member point out that I have >>>>>>> used abusing words in any language * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 02:19:02 pm IST, Narayanaswamy >>>>>>> Sekar <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: *'N Sekar' via iyer123* <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, Dec 26, 2023, 2:14 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature >>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, >>>>>>> Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V. R. < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have written earlier also but did not want to harp on that point >>>>>>> again and again lest I would become the target. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope to be understood in the spirit in which this is written and >>>>>>> hope not to be subjected to any verbal onslaught - erudite, scholarly or >>>>>>> otherwise - in whatever language. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My earlier request still stands which I repeat now: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If at all you have to use toxic words, IF AT ALL, pl go ahead BUT >>>>>>> please stop, please, please for Heaven's sake, STOP targeting someone's >>>>>>> mother - she is not responsible for any real, imagined, perceived >>>>>>> mistake , >>>>>>> error or indecent or improper behaviour of any contributor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So is calling someone " Bastard". Let us remember we all have our >>>>>>> mothers before we write anything abusive about any other woman, >>>>>>> especially >>>>>>> when that person is not a party to these disgusting, deplorable, >>>>>>> detestable >>>>>>> and downright condemnable exchanges. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Our religion teaches us to look to any woman, other than our wives, >>>>>>> as our mother and let us remember that before we abuse any mother. While >>>>>>> doing so, we in fact denigrate our own mothers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The language used in some correspondences does not behove of any >>>>>>> decent, cultured person, leave alone educated ones. This charade is >>>>>>> going >>>>>>> on for a long time and is testing everybody's patience. Let us cease and >>>>>>> desist from using vulgar, demeaning, indecent, toxic language. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is applicable to all the languages used - English, Tamizh, >>>>>>> Malayalam and to ALL involved. Let not any one person claim any moral >>>>>>> high >>>>>>> ground. Nobody, repeat NOBODY involved in the exchanges comes out >>>>>>> smelling >>>>>>> roses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also let not anyone claim that he is innocent, he IS not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If any answer in the Q & A is incorrect, then whoever wants to >>>>>>> correct it, correct it BUT NOT call the question or the reply stupid, >>>>>>> senseless etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Each has a different opinion and it is just that- an opinion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't think God has appointed anybody as His Sole Agent to call >>>>>>> anybody else names. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope better sense will prevail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> N Sekar >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>>>>> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM, Rama >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> What is required is NOT the tutorials in any language but in general >>>>>>> behavior in a Group forum. The use of abusive languages has reached >>>>>>> beyond >>>>>>> limits and boundaries. >>>>>>> The so-called elderly and revered gentleman ( as adorned by a >>>>>>> member) throws out abuses at his whims and fancies, even disrespecting >>>>>>> Mothers in the process. What is the use of possessing "wealth of >>>>>>> Knowledge" >>>>>>> ? >>>>>>> One gentleman "swears" by God but subsequently uses filthiest >>>>>>> language thus displaying an alarming lack of social conscience. >>>>>>> I have not known any of these gentlemen personally but only through >>>>>>> this social media of Iyer group to which I am a member since last 2 >>>>>>> decades. I have never come across such abusive languages which has now >>>>>>> become a recent phenomena too often discrediting themselves by engaging >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> character assassination. >>>>>>> In all the exchanges I have observed that one particular gentleman >>>>>>> (Sh Rajaram) is targeted. He too posses a wealth of knowledge and his >>>>>>> immense contribution in variety of subjects is to be appreciated. Indeed >>>>>>> he has good command of languages and writing skills in English >>>>>>> ,Tamil, >>>>>>> Sanskrit and Hindi. Many a times I have seen, he has translated verses >>>>>>> for easy understanding. Of course there may be some default errors that >>>>>>> goes unnoticed while typing in the electronic media after all it is >>>>>>> human >>>>>>> I do agree that he also retaliates with equal force but he is not a >>>>>>> saint or Mahatma to be at the receiving end all times. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While writing the above, i do not mean any offence to anybody. It >>>>>>> is all in good spirits. Let us have a harmonious relationship with each >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> this group. Let us respect each other for their well being. >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Rama >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 at 10:51, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many of us will be benefited if you conduct tutorial on English >>>>>>> leaving responding to a never correct, never admit arguing and >>>>>>> calling others having bogus position member in the group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, 26 December, 2023 at 10:34:43 am IST, Laxminarayan Sarma >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Most Respected Narayanaswamy Anna* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *A humble prayer to your goodself * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Apart from sharing your infinite knowledge and with us, can you >>>>>>> kindly do us another favour?* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Would it be too much if i request you to kindly conduct tutorials >>>>>>> for basic English language skills to enable us not only to improve our >>>>>>> language skills but also equip us with the ability to make sense of the >>>>>>> gibberish that passes off as "learned responses" in language stranger >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> the Martian lingo? * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 7:11 pm Narayanaswamy Iyer, < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear folks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He is here again ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unlearned, unschooled, uneducated nonentity K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 >>>>>>> discharging >>>>>>> another truckload of obscene horse-shit and male bovine excreta in his >>>>>>> drain-gutter-sewer broken English. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And screaming and shooting his head off with his habitual >>>>>>> incomprehensible, ungrammatical, incorrect nonsense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*SINDU MUDITHAL*, for example, is neither Sanskrit nor Thamizh. >>>>>>> It is a miscegenated (bastard) word which tries to unite illegitimately >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Sanskrit word for the Indus River with the Thamizh word for "knotting" >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> "ending". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just one more instance of the vagrant street-gangster-rowdy's >>>>>>> non-knowledge of our Indian classical and our modern living languages. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The cement-brained stone-skulled perpetual idiot talks about >>>>>>> something non-existent and concocted by his incurable insanity and >>>>>>> senility.:- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*I challenged because of your nudgetry."* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Further proof that the castrated unmitigated permanent idiot has >>>>>>> lost his nuts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*You write nonsensical observations of my post , English etc only >>>>>>> as a ROAD THUG."* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pot calling the kettle black? Vagrant unlearned unschooled >>>>>>> uneducated street-fighter labelling someone else as a "road thug", when >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> is itself scouring the dark unlitback-lanes and side-streets of Red >>>>>>> Dogtown >>>>>>> hunting for potential clients for its confessed professional sex worker >>>>>>> mother? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *"**I care two hoots*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The mousing owl hiding in the recesses of a ruined tower identifying >>>>>>> itself non pareil? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*T**he corrupt minds wag their tails*. * I cannot help it.*" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Self-confessed NAYUNDA MAVEN revealing his ancestry and his canine >>>>>>> cement-filled mind? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*Others have obligations; I do not have anything to fear*." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He forgets his obligations not to lie but to tell the truth. Not to >>>>>>> defame others. Not to use filthy words. Not to misread, not to >>>>>>> misunderstand, not to mis-translate, not to mis-publish extracts from >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> vedams, our puraanams and other scriptures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He has to fear being stipped of his pretensions and having his >>>>>>> nonsense exposed to public gaze, and to be proved an unmitigated stupid >>>>>>> fool again and again >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "*Every good question against the vedic structures were answered in >>>>>>> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The structure of r'g-vedam is such that it is full of holes like a >>>>>>> Swiss cheese. And these holes are stuffed with verses stolen from the >>>>>>> yajur-vedam. Including the opening and concluding verses. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which upanishad, puranam and other text, by rishis explains why this >>>>>>> is so? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 4:48 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr Gopala krishnan >>>>>>> In sanskrit and many languages they say: SINDU MUDITHAL; i >>>>>>> APPRECIATE EVERY ONE; i WRITE ON EVERYONE'S AIRING MY VIEWS; SO I HAVE >>>>>>> NOTHING TO ENVY ABOUT ANYONE; I WRITE ALWAYS --ALL SHOULD WRITE. Then >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> is the new theory of yours? You are writing good about some general >>>>>>> topics; >>>>>>> rarely under Q and A at times you write good; and I had given my >>>>>>> appreciations; but you do not know at 89 to move good with people or >>>>>>> write >>>>>>> perfect for your age; you are carried away by misconceptions as your >>>>>>> friend >>>>>>> Narayanasamy and another; I challenged because of your nudgetry, 1 you >>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan till date -did not write that I am wrong, by evidentiary >>>>>>> establishment, because, when you turn the pages, the truth is laughing >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> you!!; hence out of great frustrations, you write nonsensical >>>>>>> observations >>>>>>> of my post , English etc only as a ROAD THUG. See when you present one, >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> get back ten. Learn to behave, write, rebut strongly as I do. It is the >>>>>>> same position with Narayansamy who cannot do anything better; so neti >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> adverse marks blended with abuses tying in my family whom he did not >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> and incurring tonnes of sin. I care two hoots because I AM CLEAR IN MY >>>>>>> MIND. Honesty is not frightened but the corrupt minds wag their tails. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> cannot help it. Why even few good people were also enticed by pressure >>>>>>> from the community and other fore-seen reasons. Tan nenrivadhu poyyarkka >>>>>>> poythain than nenje thannaich chudum; hence those side tracks will come >>>>>>> back. But you three cannot be redeemed at all. When many are running >>>>>>> away >>>>>>> from you three, I am not afraid of you three at all, why? Others have >>>>>>> obligations; I do not have anything to fear. Now your sindu with Bala >>>>>>> Iyer, >>>>>>> I wrote that I will meet his view also, in spite of the right question >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> raised; read it again. So you 3 have no knowledge of matter (as you said >>>>>>> GAYA srardham, is end of all sradham which you are still evading; you >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> such things often; evading ; ) ; you 3 who cannot do anything better , >>>>>>> feels hitting at , which is never ever a loss to me, because , stupids >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> not forces to reckon with. Bala iyer's question is relevant; even I had >>>>>>> asked such questions in these forums, which is not yet answered by any >>>>>>> one. >>>>>>> But every good question against the vedic structures were answered in >>>>>>> upanishads, Puranas and other texts, by Rishis; so one shall not >>>>>>> question >>>>>>> Vedas is also right as well as right questions must be clarified, if >>>>>>> known; so what Mr Bala Iyer raised waas NETI or your type of nagations; >>>>>>> how >>>>>>> by adopting gotra can be changed is relevant question; and i said I will >>>>>>> write shortly; content to content is not like yours Gopala. So forget >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> sindu mudithal and live righteously; whatever you 3 do nothing can be >>>>>>> done >>>>>>> against the dharma. Thank you And as long as you raise your funny flag I >>>>>>> shall put it down. K Rajaram IRS 25 12 23 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: *'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers* < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2023 at 12:44 >>>>>>> Subject: [KeralaIyers] Envious nature >>>>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>, Iyer < >>>>>>> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, >>>>>>> Patty Thatha <[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Respected sir, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have revealed. Mr Rajaram is envious- I have also observed. >>>>>>> Otherwise this much of negations must not have come from him. He is not >>>>>>> able to tolerate more qualified criticize him. It is also obvious from >>>>>>> his >>>>>>> responses with Bala N iyer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> On Facebook, please join >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : >>>>>>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >>>>>>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "KeralaIyers" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/1885795512.1951985.1703488490491%40mail.yahoo.com >>>>>>> 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