Thanks Tony. Of course it does highlight a fundamental issue with back ups - the directory was being backed up everyday on normal server back up process - but the data had never been written to the drive, so the back up was unchanged for that folder.
Perhaps I was unlucky but I was surprised that Tiddlywiki report nothing of the multiple failed tiddler saves everyday. Andy On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 9:53:22 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote: > > ANdy, > > Thanks for sharing this experience, lets hope it saves some one a lot of > time. No need for to state the first rule of tiddlywiki (backup), > especially since it is so simple for single files. Your transition to the > server solutions changes this somewhat. > > Yours in sympathy, Best Wishes > Tony > > On Saturday, 9 May 2020 16:00:21 UTC+10, Andy Redfern wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> Started using TiddlyWiki around four weeks ago. I love the friendliness >> of the community and the product itself. As a long time developer, the >> ability to tweak and tinker is very attractive. I can create the work flow >> I want. >> >> Started running in a single file mode, added in using TiddlyDesktop and >> then in an effort to make it work with my phone too I switched to the >> NodeJS. Read a couple of the guides to using NodeJS and TiddlyWiki, and I >> was off. >> >> Then on Friday night disaster struck and I lost 2 weeks of data – >> everything since I had switched to NodeJS. So after a day sobbing quietly >> in the corner this is my effort to figure out where I went wrong with my >> set up so you too don’t make the mistake I do. >> >> So following this guide >> https://www.npmjs.com/package/tiddlywiki >> >> and everything worked as expected apart from >> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server >> >> which errored: >> Error: Error creating directory 'testlife' >> >> Doh! Permissions I thought. So added in Sudo >> sudo tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server >> >> Created fine and started >> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server >> >> However it errored too: >> Sync error while processing save of '$:/StoryList': Error: ENOENT: no >> such file or directory, open >> '/var/www/html/..fullpath../tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid' >> >> Ah tiddlers folder not created – manually created and I was off. >> >> All worked as expected except I get having to start tiddlywiki every time >> my Putty session ended. Not what I wanted. >> Read around nodejs advice sites and people suggest using forever. >> So: >> forever start --spinSleepTime 10000 /usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki >> /var/www/html/..fullpath../mynewwiki --listen host=0.0.0.0 username=**** >> password=**** >> >> Everything works as I am expecting. >> >> And yet I have made an error – I created the Tiddler folder using Root as >> I used sudo – and the new folder doesn’t have write permissions for the >> process running in with forever. Without forever it has all the >> permissions it needs, but with forever it doesn’t. >> >> So everything looked fine – but actually Tiddlywiki was syncing to the >> server fine but all my data was in memory. So when after 2 weeks I stopped >> the process to make some tweaks ready for a proposed PR on the core code, I >> lost everything. <FX: SOUND OF HEAD BANGING ON TABLE> >> >> >> So in summary - What should I have done differently to avoid the >> permissions based errors in the first place? >> >> Tiddlywiki --init failed – so I used sudo – what should I have done? >> >> Tiddlywiki --init failed to create tiddlers sub folder – permissions? >> >> Forever runs as the correct user but without the permissions. I solved >> the problem by giving the folder 777 full write permissions, but what >> should I have done? >> >> Final thought. The permissions error in writing data to the server drive >> surfaced no errors in TW – why? Shouldn’t it have alerted me that no data >> was being saved. The only place I could find the error was in the difficult >> to interpret forever logs which I was scouring to figure where I had gone >> wrong. >> >> Anyway, sorry for the long read but I hope my experience can help others >> avoid the same issue and potentially see TW amended to report when it can’t >> save tiddlers to the server drive. >> >> Andy >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e46f8a8c-307d-43c9-b5c6-000085a3b0f6%40googlegroups.com.
