What's missing from your report is your operating system. Linux? Which 
flavor? Mac? Or ??

I run node and node-like products on xubuntu, and have never had to run as 
root. But maybe other systems are fussier?

On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 11:00:21 PM UTC-7, Andy Redfern wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Started using TiddlyWiki around four weeks ago. I love the friendliness of 
> the community and the product itself. As a long time developer, the ability 
> to tweak and tinker is very attractive. I can create the work flow I want.
>
> Started running in a single file mode, added in using TiddlyDesktop and 
> then in an effort to make it work with my phone too I switched to the 
> NodeJS. Read a couple of the guides to using NodeJS and TiddlyWiki, and I 
> was off.
>
> Then on Friday night disaster struck and I lost 2 weeks of data – 
> everything since I had switched to NodeJS. So after a day sobbing quietly 
> in the corner this is my effort to figure out where I went wrong with my 
> set up so you too don’t make the mistake I do.
>
> So following this guide 
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/tiddlywiki
>
> and everything worked as expected apart from
> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>
> which errored:
> Error: Error creating directory 'testlife'
>
> Doh! Permissions I thought. So added in Sudo
> sudo tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>
> Created fine and started
> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>
> However it errored too:
> Sync error while processing save of '$:/StoryList': Error: ENOENT: no such 
> file or directory, open 
> '/var/www/html/..fullpath../tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid'
>
> Ah tiddlers folder not created – manually created and I was off.
>
> All worked as expected except I get having to start tiddlywiki every time 
> my Putty session ended. Not what I wanted.
> Read around nodejs advice sites and people suggest using forever.
> So:
> forever start --spinSleepTime 10000 /usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki 
> /var/www/html/..fullpath../mynewwiki --listen host=0.0.0.0 username=**** 
> password=****
>
> Everything works as I am expecting.
>
> And yet I have made an error – I created the Tiddler folder using Root as 
> I used sudo – and the new folder doesn’t have write permissions for the 
> process running in with forever. Without forever it has all the 
> permissions it needs, but with forever it doesn’t.
>
> So everything looked fine – but actually Tiddlywiki was syncing to the 
> server fine but all my data was in memory. So when after 2 weeks I stopped 
> the process to make some tweaks ready for a proposed PR on the core code, I 
> lost everything. <FX: SOUND OF HEAD BANGING ON TABLE>
>
>
> So in summary - What should I have done differently to avoid the 
> permissions based errors in the first place? 
>
> Tiddlywiki --init failed – so I used sudo – what should I have done?
>
> Tiddlywiki --init failed to create tiddlers sub folder – permissions?
>
> Forever runs as the correct user but without the permissions. I solved the 
> problem by giving the folder 777 full write permissions, but what should I 
> have done?
>
> Final thought. The permissions error in writing data to the server drive 
> surfaced no errors in TW – why? Shouldn’t it have alerted me that no data 
> was being saved. The only place I could find the error was in the difficult 
> to interpret forever logs which I was scouring to figure where I had gone 
> wrong.
>
> Anyway, sorry for the long read but I hope my experience can help others 
> avoid the same issue and potentially see TW amended to report when it can’t 
> save tiddlers to the server drive.
>
> Andy
>
>
>

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