Correct.
Having given the tiddler folder 777 permissions even when running with 
forever I see;
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: 
$:/_sq/Stories/Story2HistoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: Untitled
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
 syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList

Andy

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 11:10:05 PM UTC+1, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> This is what my console looks like after a very little bit of editing. 
> Your log file should have similar lines.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Arlen Beiler <arle...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Do you see any messages like this?
>>
>>  syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList or any 
>> other tiddler title
>>
>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 6:02 PM Arlen Beiler <arle...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> It seemed strange to me that there would be no logging for that error, 
>>> and that would definitely have been a bug, however in trying to reproduce 
>>> this, I am getting an error message.
>>>
>>> Sync error while processing save of '$:/StoryList': Error: EACCES: 
>>> permission denied, open 
>>> '/Users/arlen/Desktop/GitHub/TiddlyWiki5-Arlen22/data/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid'
>>>
>>> And it comes every second. 
>>>
>>> If the directory cannot be created, there is no error, but then of 
>>> course the tiddler fails to save. 
>>>
>>> Can you verify that you were running tiddlywiki version 5.1.21 or 5.1.22?
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:45 PM Arlen Beiler <arle...@gmail.com 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sorry to hear this. As I deal with data folders a lot, I'm 
>>>> investigating this and will open a PR shortly.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 2:00 AM Andy Redfern <an...@yogamatters.com 
>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Started using TiddlyWiki around four weeks ago. I love the 
>>>>> friendliness of the community and the product itself. As a long time 
>>>>> developer, the ability to tweak and tinker is very attractive. I can 
>>>>> create 
>>>>> the work flow I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Started running in a single file mode, added in using TiddlyDesktop 
>>>>> and then in an effort to make it work with my phone too I switched to the 
>>>>> NodeJS. Read a couple of the guides to using NodeJS and TiddlyWiki, and I 
>>>>> was off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then on Friday night disaster struck and I lost 2 weeks of data – 
>>>>> everything since I had switched to NodeJS. So after a day sobbing quietly 
>>>>> in the corner this is my effort to figure out where I went wrong with my 
>>>>> set up so you too don’t make the mistake I do.
>>>>>
>>>>> So following this guide 
>>>>> https://www.npmjs.com/package/tiddlywiki
>>>>>
>>>>> and everything worked as expected apart from
>>>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>>>>
>>>>> which errored:
>>>>> Error: Error creating directory 'testlife'
>>>>>
>>>>> Doh! Permissions I thought. So added in Sudo
>>>>> sudo tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>>>>
>>>>> Created fine and started
>>>>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --init server
>>>>>
>>>>> However it errored too:
>>>>> Sync error while processing save of '$:/StoryList': Error: ENOENT: no 
>>>>> such file or directory, open 
>>>>> '/var/www/html/..fullpath../tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid'
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah tiddlers folder not created – manually created and I was off.
>>>>>
>>>>> All worked as expected except I get having to start tiddlywiki every 
>>>>> time my Putty session ended. Not what I wanted.
>>>>> Read around nodejs advice sites and people suggest using forever.
>>>>> So:
>>>>> forever start --spinSleepTime 10000 /usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki 
>>>>> /var/www/html/..fullpath../mynewwiki --listen host=0.0.0.0 username=**** 
>>>>> password=****
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything works as I am expecting.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet I have made an error – I created the Tiddler folder using Root 
>>>>> as I used sudo – and the new folder doesn’t have write permissions 
>>>>> for the process running in with forever. Without forever it has all 
>>>>> the permissions it needs, but with forever it doesn’t.
>>>>>
>>>>> So everything looked fine – but actually Tiddlywiki was syncing to the 
>>>>> server fine but all my data was in memory. So when after 2 weeks I 
>>>>> stopped 
>>>>> the process to make some tweaks ready for a proposed PR on the core code, 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> lost everything. <FX: SOUND OF HEAD BANGING ON TABLE>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So in summary - What should I have done differently to avoid the 
>>>>> permissions based errors in the first place? 
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddlywiki --init failed – so I used sudo – what should I have done?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tiddlywiki --init failed to create tiddlers sub folder – permissions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Forever runs as the correct user but without the permissions. I solved 
>>>>> the problem by giving the folder 777 full write permissions, but what 
>>>>> should I have done?
>>>>>
>>>>> Final thought. The permissions error in writing data to the server 
>>>>> drive surfaced no errors in TW – why? Shouldn’t it have alerted me that 
>>>>> no 
>>>>> data was being saved. The only place I could find the error was in the 
>>>>> difficult to interpret forever logs which I was scouring to figure where 
>>>>> I 
>>>>> had gone wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, sorry for the long read but I hope my experience can help 
>>>>> others avoid the same issue and potentially see TW amended to report when 
>>>>> it can’t save tiddlers to the server drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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