David, I think I understand what you are suggesting and think what ever can help to capture and re-envision the content is an ideal place for tiddlywiki to operate it. I have read it multiple times.
For clarification, in my words. - is a key part of this idea that new tiddlers can be created from the intersection of two or more "attributes of a tiddler", in this case one or more tags/tags fields and or object-type in this case a definition? - Then in the new tiddler you can view information as it relates to this intersection? If I am correct here, may I suggest; - It may not be necessary to create said tiddler, more just a view that looks like a separate tiddler, until such time as you wish to store something unique for that "intersection" or relationship. I tend to be a little more abstract in my thinking and try to design for maximum flexibility, so I am inspired by your idea but have not quite digested the full picture yet. Once I do I may be able to make a mechanism or set of mechanism's that let you achieve what you want, but the will offer a broader set of possibilities. In many ways what you are asking seems to be a way of viewing the results of organising tiddlers with two or more attributes? Regards Tones On Monday, 5 October 2020 07:22:47 UTC+11, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi positiv... no worries, if you don't have internal motivation by reading > the steps I already put, maybe someone else will. I think my description > was clear enough. But here is a second try. > > 1. Content creators > a. Create tiddler > b. tag with topic "Botany" and with format "Definitions" (and perhaps > there are two tag fields in edit mode, one for topics, one for formats. I > mentioned that Gen tags already does this. > c. Add text "Botany is the science of bots - robots, nanobots, etc" and > save tiddler. > d. And so the content creators can 'dump' individual notes quickly that > show up automatically in any revelant topics AND any relevant formats. > > 2. End user (I will upload file to Internet for users to consult) > a. Filters and chooses a topic from a dropdown list, similar to the > List-search macro. A tiddler is created with the entries tagged with that > topic, with entries grouped under headers, the headers being the various > formats. Title, Botany, organized by format. The tiddler mentioned in (1) > shows up, under the "Definitions" header > b. Similar process for choosing a format from a dropdown, and getting a > tiddler "Definitions (organized by topic)" with topical headers, and > tiddlers appear grouped under them as either links or transclusions. The > tiddler above appears under the heading "Botany". > c. User also has the option to choose both topic AND format, to produce a > tiddler "Botany - Definitions." > d. And so the user can read export or print notes, either filtered by two > criteria, or filtered by one and organized by the other. > > I think this could be valuable. I can foresee many usecases besides those > I personally am interested in. I am not actually asking anyone to do it. > But if someone here agrees it is valuable and has the knowhow to do it, > great. If not, no worries. Just sharing an idea to see if there is > interest. Blessings. > > On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:12:00 PM UTC-5 positiv...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Everything bad is good for someone else. The problem with creating >> something from someone else's idea is that there isn't any internal >> motivation. Collaboration is much more likely to produce results. >> >> You should publish a wiki with some "user stories" describing the steps a >> user would go through to accomplish something meaningful in their life. >> Then I could flesh out the programmatic steps it would take to get those >> user steps to work within the reality of a web browser running Javascript >> stored in an HTML file, and you can update the wiki with more ideas from >> there. This way you can iteratively see the project coming to life, and >> gradually learn what trade-offs are needed between theory and reality. >> >> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 6:23:25 AM UTC-7 David Gifford wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Why am I cursed with so many ideas, but so little time and knowhow to >>> implement them? I am just going to throw this out there. If anyone thinks >>> it is worthwhile to create this, go for it. Not for me, just if you think >>> it is genuinely helpful. >>> >>> Part 1: a content creator adds tiddlers, and tags them by topic, and >>> tags them by format (advice, reflection questions, links, definitions, >>> etc). The Gen Tags plugin ( >>> https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/GenericTagFields/) might be a good >>> tool for helping the content creator distinguish types of tags. Or maybe >>> there is a better tool for that. >>> >>> Part 2: The end user has a control panel to filter by topic, by format, >>> or both: >>> >>> a) filtering by both and clicking a button produces a tiddler, e.g. >>> "Reflection questions on botany" and the text field shows the text fields >>> of all tiddlers tagged by the tag "Reflection questions" and the tag >>> "Botany". >>> >>> b) Filtering only by topic produces a tiddler that lists the text field >>> of all the tiddlers tagged by that topic, but grouped by format. ("Entries >>> on Botany, organized by format") Filtering only by format does the >>> opposite, all the tiddlers with that format, grouped by topic ("Reflection >>> questions, organized by topic") >>> >>> There are, obviously, more uses for this than just "topic and format". >>> "Topic and source (book)" comes to mind, "Recipes by main ingredient and >>> meal type", "Restaurants by location and category", now I am hungry, Songs >>> by artist and some other criteria, etc. >>> >>> There is a tool called Xlists, which crosses categories, and hints at >>> what I am getting at, but I am thinking of something that makes it easier >>> for both creators and users to quickly view results from combining two >>> types of tags. >>> >>> Anyway, that is my idea for the morning. I think it would be a very >>> valuable addition to the TiddlyWiki repertoire. If you do too, and know how >>> to create it, please consider it. >>> >>> Blessings. >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/ab1e50c1-489e-42ef-9ab8-ca5c930cd653o%40googlegroups.com.
