Ciao Charlie

Actually in this GG past there have been very good, deep discussions of Z.

Its always an issue you we can't f*ing find anything easily after the fact.

TT, x

On Saturday, 31 October 2020 20:42:02 UTC+1, Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
> Man, this thread is turning into something like crack for me.
>
> That was awesome, TT.
>
> Zettelkasten is quite awesome for folk who see everything as intertwingled.
>
> I imagine for some folk, duplication of information/notes is easier.  This 
> way each copy of a note exists in a structural view/context, entirely 
> detached (neatly cleaved?) from other contexts.  In general, I think most 
> humans like neat and tidy and hierarchical, without cross-connections or 
> inter-connections.  Essentially files in structured folders.  Well, maybe, 
> rather, people have been conditioned by computers into thinking files in 
> structured folders.  (Chicken and egg problem ?)
>
> I've never looked into Zettelkasten until today (wikipedia and a few 
> YouTube videos).  I guess I've been organically doing that since I first 
> started using wikis circa 2006.  Cool.
>
> The only things about Zettlekasten proper that turns me off:
>
>    - the use of (contrived/artificial ?) "ID's" for each bit of 
>    information
>       - well, they make total sense to me with paper index cards kept in 
>       drawers
>    - this bit in the wikipedia description turns me off:  "The notes are 
>    numbered hierarchically, so that new notes may be inserted at the 
>    appropriate place"
>    - to me, every note is a first class citizen, so there should be no 
>       hierarchy anywhere except all the hierarchies derived from links 
> between 
>       notes that form a structure for some information context
>       - so
>          - hierachical numbering makes no sense to me for the way I 
>          think/see
>          - there's so such thing as "appropriate place":  all notes are 
>          equally important, so they don't exist in any particular place 
> (although 
>          they will show up, via the magic of transclusion, in all sorts of 
> places)
>       
>
> - Blathering Me?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 3:50:52 PM UTC-3, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> bimlas wrote:
>>
>> Zettelkasten
>>
>>
>> Is the brilliant application of a brilliant man's praxis. 
>>
>> A praxis developed on paper where "external brain" was connections to 
>> zilliions of cards that *never changed position*.
>>
>> The "network" is in the indices.
>>
>> Does is expand to *all* people? I mean: is all thinking organised best 
>> like Luhmann's think brain-external card dynamic?
>>
>> Maybe?
>>
>> TT
>>
>

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