@jermolene, have you heard of any projects along this line?

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-8 Sean Boyle wrote:

> The mermaid (
> https://mermaid-js.github.io/mermaid/diagrams-and-syntax-and-examples/gantt.html)
>  
> plugin supports gantt, but it is a bit quirky.  IIRC, the mermaid plugin 
> was released but abandoned.  The types of diagrams that the parent project 
> supports at this point are:
> * flowchart
> * sequence diagrams
> * class diagrams
> * state diagrams
> * entity relationship diagrams (ERD)
> * user journey diagram (I had never even heard of these before seeing it 
> on the mermaid site)
> * gantt chart
> * pie chart
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 5:22:13 AM UTC-8 Ste wrote:
>
>> All for diagrams and drawings! I find myself using a variety of tools 
>> though as lot of packages don't do things like dimensions/ line lengths or 
>> a centre line....I basically want AutoCAD LT but for .svg :) 
>> https://editor.method.ac/ does in a pinch for simple stuff.  Bizarrely 
>> PowerPoint has quite robust drawing and line animation features these 
>> days!...reads back...GANTT charts you say?!  where?
>>
>> On Monday, 2 November 2020 at 20:25:23 UTC Sean Boyle wrote:
>>
>>> It feels silly replying to myself, but...
>>>
>>> Some possibilities are:
>>>
>>>    - mxgraph - this is the basis for draw.io, which has a GUI, &c.  A 
>>>    GUI is not strictly necessary, but would be handy for some things - free
>>>    - JointJS - Seems to support the usual diagram types, including BPMN 
>>>    free
>>>    - yEd - I really like the layout options, being able to import SVG 
>>>    nodes.  It is free for any use, but if the underlying libraries (yFiles) 
>>>    are to be used, they have commercial licencing..
>>>
>>> The trick is finding someone with the chops to be able to integrate 
>>> something like one of these, then stick around to update from time to 
>>> time.  I get the impression that most people are not really interested in 
>>> diagrams to sit alongside the notes in a tiddler.  The closest thing so far 
>>> is viz and railroad, which are both rather limited.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 9:26:00 AM UTC-7 Sean Boyle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Victor,
>>>> Thanks for the reply!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I tried out PlantUML (nice sequence diagram, btw).  I don't know 
>>>> if it is still that way, but it used to be that the drawing was pushed to 
>>>> an internet server for processing.  I'm more interested in something which 
>>>> is self-contained, especially since some of my diagrams could be 
>>>> considered 
>>>> sensitive, but in general I like self-contained solutions.  Some others 
>>>> which I have tried out are:
>>>> * Mermaid
>>>> * Graphviz
>>>> * Railroad
>>>> * Tidgraph
>>>> * edit in an external tool, render, and import the SVG (usually yEd)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 6:54:19 AM UTC-7 Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> there is also PlantUML: 
>>>>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml
>>>>>
>>>>> I've used this for some proof-of-concept I was doing:
>>>>> https://tiddly.info/serverless#about
>>>>>
>>>>> KR, 
>>>>> Victor 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 1:08:57 AM UTC+1 Sean Boyle wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pinging this topic again.  It appears that diagramming plugins come, 
>>>>>> then are abandoned.  I have taken to using graphviz (viz plugin) and it 
>>>>>> works reasonably well (only a bit quirky) and if there were some 
>>>>>> reasonable 
>>>>>> ways of adding symbols for creating graphs such as flowchart, CORAS, 
>>>>>> BPMN, 
>>>>>> sequence, communication diagrams, it would fulfill 90% of my needs.  
>>>>>> Having 
>>>>>> said that, are there any efforts out there for incorporating lightweight 
>>>>>> graphing with extensible symbol sets, or diagramming?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 2:00:59 PM UTC-7 Sean Boyle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found that sequence diagrammes seem to copy / paste, but DAG and 
>>>>>>> GANTT do not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 1:44:16 PM UTC-7, Sean Boyle wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My workaround is to use the online editor: 
>>>>>>>> https://mermaidjs.github.io/mermaid-live-editor/#/edit/eyJjb2RlIjoiZ3JhcGggVERcbkFbQ2hyaXN0bWFzXSAtLT58R2V0IG1vbmV5fCBCKEdvIHNob3BwaW5nKVxuQiAtLT4gQ3tMZXQgbWUgdGhpbmt9XG5DIC0tPnxPbmV8IERbTGFwdG9wXVxuQyAtLT58VHdvfCBFW2lQaG9uZV1cbkMgLS0-fFRocmVlfCBGW0Nhcl1cbiIsIm1lcm1haWQiOnsidGhlbWUiOiJkZWZhdWx0In19
>>>>>>>>  , 
>>>>>>>> save as SVG, import to TW, and transclude.  That seems to work OK for 
>>>>>>>> copy/paste to other windows.  It does seem to be a problem for other 
>>>>>>>> graphical stuff, like railroad diagrams.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 4:39:51 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ciao Sean
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree that Mermaid for TiddlyWiki is good. Its simple plain text 
>>>>>>>>> syntax is excellent and fits TW editing style very well. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regarding the non-printability. That is a known issue with that 
>>>>>>>>> type of graphic rendering. I'm not sure that its easily fixable. The 
>>>>>>>>> way I 
>>>>>>>>> get round it if I need to print a Mermaid diagram is to take a screen 
>>>>>>>>> capture save as a file and link to that image in the TW. Its too 
>>>>>>>>> laborious 
>>>>>>>>> a method for other than occasional use, but a work-around for limited 
>>>>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are right: looks like its been basically abandoned. Part of 
>>>>>>>>> the issue is I think the author probably concluded that no one was 
>>>>>>>>> interested. He has other good graphic tools that equally haven't got 
>>>>>>>>> much 
>>>>>>>>> notice.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as I can see it needs a bit of tweeking -- one issue I 
>>>>>>>>> sometimes encountered was getting the text to fit properly. But the 
>>>>>>>>> core is 
>>>>>>>>> there and functional.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As far as getting the plugin revised. I dunno. I don't have skill 
>>>>>>>>> for that. Its a good tool so maybe in time interest to revisit it 
>>>>>>>>> will grow?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>> Josiah
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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