@Soren, @Walt, you are both right about the need for an editable version of GTW. I was hoping to be able to have one on my iPad, but I ditched the idea yesterday afternoon after reading both of your messages. The nice part about using the Chromebook is that I can have two copies, side by side: The first I am reading (and doing the exercises) and the second I am using for my editing suggestions. The latter I will send back to @Soren.
Stan On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 1:39:34 PM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote: > Now that i've got some experience w/ the spaced-repetition dynamic of the > Takeaway feature (since only night before last, i can see how it's helping > my recall), i have to agree with Soren: a read-only version of this book is > just not the same thing -not even close. That being said: until i got the > editable version working in Quine (as previously described), i still got a > lot out of it in that mode. But if i had a MacBook Air, @stan, i'd be > sorely tempted to take it to bed, because i *so* hate typing on glass, and > yet this book really inspires you to get weave some wiki. > > Speaking of which, @Soren, i have to ask: When the inevitable revision(s) > to this book come out, how do we upgrade without losing our edits? You > mentioned something about this in another thread > <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/sDNCk1tDjlM/m/mV4BH1lCAgAJ>, > but i'm still not clear from a user perspective how this is supposed to > work. Would appreciate if you could explain. > > /walt > > > On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 4:59:11 PM UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote: > >> Stan, I've seen the same problem and unfortunately have not found a >> solution (my phone is new enough, I just haven't downloaded Quine). It's >> kind of bizarre that Apple doesn't have a way to open an HTML file on your >> phone (except in preview, which doesn't work since it doesn't have JS), >> even though you have both a browser and a file storage area. >> >> In any case, you're probably going to want to be able to save changes to >> the book to track your progress on the takeaways, so I'm not sure direct >> access through Firefox would work out well for this use case anyway. >> >> >> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 7:48:14 AM UTC-6 stan...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Is there some way to read the book on an old iPad? I have an *iPad mini >>> 4, iOS 12.5*, so Quine 2 is not an option. I tried the simplistic >>> approach of downloading the book using Firefox, but for the life of me, >>> could not figure out how to load it to read the book. I also tried Safari, >>> Firefox Focus, Dolphin (in desperation!) and finally went to sleep. A >>> tablet version sans Quine 2 would be attractive - I don't want to take my >>> Chromebook or one of my MacBook Airs to bed. >>> >>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 4:39:24 AM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote: >>> >>>> @Soren : Amazing piece of work, mate! I just downloaded it last night >>>> on my iPad, fully expecting to nod-off in <15min (a nice fat eBook on some >>>> tech topic is my favourite form of sleeping pill :-)... But then the darn >>>> thing kept me going *way* into the wee-hours, until i must either get up >>>> and get working in TiddlyDesktop (had some trouble saving a local copy on >>>> iPad via Quine2 [note1]), or else power-down somehow (which i finally >>>> did... But it wasn't easy!). >>>> >>>> So i think it's fair to say -at least for those like me that already >>>> quite into TiddlyWiki, but also with serious gaps in know-how, begging to >>>> be filled- this book is a great resource, even in current form. To be >>>> clear: this is no "5hi++y first draft" (as authors are advised these days >>>> to call their first Request For Comments); it's a very broad and deep >>>> treatment of the subject, organised by a guy who really knows the tool and >>>> how to use it to max advantage. Moreover: Soren brings some progressive >>>> learning theory to the table, in the form of this "Takeways" feature (i.e. >>>> granular Q&A exercises in context) that really works. >>>> >>>> Check it out! >>>> >>>> /walt >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:59:27 PM UTC PMario wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> -as in my first post >>>>> My github profile <https://github.com/pmario>contains an e-mail link >>>>> -m >>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 3:55:29 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a draft just about ready for review, but it looks like the >>>>>> group as configured doesn't allow me to see the contact information of >>>>>> anyone who posted. Could everyone who was interested in participating >>>>>> please take 30 seconds to fill out this Google form with your email >>>>>> address? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetcYknEP3bbJN38u1jpp2QJIHQUyhYArdc-ZQk7aSrQuqskA/viewform?usp=sf_link >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking at having this out to you all by the end of the week and >>>>>> would love to have your feedback gathered in by early to mid-March. I >>>>>> will >>>>>> email you with further details once you have filled out the form. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 7:10:44 PM UTC-6 springa...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm an absolute beginner. I'd love to help proofread it if you >>>>>>> still need volunteers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As the end of the year approaches and I start planning personal >>>>>>>> goals for next year, I thought I'd share an early update on a project >>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>> really excited about and hope will be a boon for the TiddlyWiki >>>>>>>> community: >>>>>>>> a TiddlyWiki textbook (written in TiddlyWiki, of course). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Right now we have (mostly) good technical documentation for >>>>>>>> advanced users, a thriving Google group, and plenty of introductions >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki, but nothing that bridges the gap by helping new users who >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> serious about learning the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki to build a >>>>>>>> complete >>>>>>>> understanding of TiddlyWiki concepts. That's what I'm hoping to fix. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of the other things I'm excited about is my included prototype >>>>>>>> of a mnemonic medium >>>>>>>> <https://notes.andymatuschak.org/z4rRX3qwSSJRsEkdXKwH2shamgHNeRthrMLiF> >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki built on top of my TiddlyRemember plugin. This allows >>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>> prompts to be embedded in the text, then reviewed at regular intervals >>>>>>>> controlled by a spaced-repetition algorithm, either with a simple >>>>>>>> native-TiddlyWiki reviewer or in Anki <https://apps.ankiweb.net/> via >>>>>>>> TiddlyRemember. With this medium, learning and retaining large amounts >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> new terminology and syntax is much easier. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot from 2020-12-30 17-08-30.png] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been working on this off and on for a few months and am hoping >>>>>>>> that within the next month or two, I'll have a solid draft. At that >>>>>>>> point I >>>>>>>> would like to send this out to a handful of people for an initial, >>>>>>>> rigorous >>>>>>>> round of private review and feedback. I would like to involve several >>>>>>>> expert users and several beginners (I'd love to see 2-3 in each >>>>>>>> category). >>>>>>>> Here's what I'd hope to hear from these reviewers: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Experts: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - See any outright errors? I'm sure I made a few. >>>>>>>> - Did I miss any concepts or features that you use all the time >>>>>>>> or think are essential? >>>>>>>> - For the resources at the end: What major resources or plugins >>>>>>>> would be worth including that I don't know about or haven't >>>>>>>> included? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Beginners: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Did everything I wrote make sense? >>>>>>>> - How well did the mnemonic medium work? Were the prompts >>>>>>>> effective? Did you understand how to use it? >>>>>>>> - Did your TiddlyWiki skills improve? >>>>>>>> - Were the exercises too hard? Too easy? Lacking enough >>>>>>>> information? >>>>>>>> - Roughly how long did it take to work through the book? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would be looking for a commitment to read through the whole book, >>>>>>>> ideally do most of the exercises, and offer substantive feedback. The >>>>>>>> book >>>>>>>> is currently about 70,000 words and includes plenty of exercises, so >>>>>>>> although I have no data on how long it will take to work through the >>>>>>>> book >>>>>>>> at this point, I can't imagine it would be a one-evening task. As >>>>>>>> compensation, I can offer early access to the book, your name in the >>>>>>>> acknowledgements, a $25 Amazon gift card (maybe more if there are >>>>>>>> fewer >>>>>>>> reviewers or I can cram it into my budget), and a huge thank-you to >>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>> who's willing to help out. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you're interested in being involved when the time comes, please >>>>>>>> let me know here or by emailing contact at sorenbjornstad.com. If >>>>>>>> your ability to help out depends on the timeline, please let me know >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I'll see what I can do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/d1754c42-4618-4cac-9d6e-e91904585b4an%40googlegroups.com.
