Hi, as a (re)beginner (after 6 years or so) i am starting to enjoy TW5 again and can use some info and exercises So i would like to volunteer for proofreading your book. Just drop me a line and tell me what to do ;-) Great initiative!
Ray Op zondag 14 februari 2021 om 14:46:45 UTC+1 schreef stan...@gmail.com: > @Soren, @Walt, you are both right about the need for an editable version > of GTW. I was hoping to be able to have one on my iPad, but I ditched the > idea yesterday afternoon after reading both of your messages. The nice > part about using the Chromebook is that I can have two copies, side by > side: The first I am reading (and doing the exercises) and the second I am > using for my editing suggestions. The latter I will send back to @Soren. > > Stan > On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 1:39:34 PM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote: > >> Now that i've got some experience w/ the spaced-repetition dynamic of the >> Takeaway feature (since only night before last, i can see how it's helping >> my recall), i have to agree with Soren: a read-only version of this book is >> just not the same thing -not even close. That being said: until i got the >> editable version working in Quine (as previously described), i still got a >> lot out of it in that mode. But if i had a MacBook Air, @stan, i'd be >> sorely tempted to take it to bed, because i *so* hate typing on glass, and >> yet this book really inspires you to get weave some wiki. >> >> Speaking of which, @Soren, i have to ask: When the inevitable revision(s) >> to this book come out, how do we upgrade without losing our edits? You >> mentioned something about this in another thread >> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/sDNCk1tDjlM/m/mV4BH1lCAgAJ>, >> but i'm still not clear from a user perspective how this is supposed to >> work. Would appreciate if you could explain. >> >> /walt >> >> >> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 4:59:11 PM UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote: >> >>> Stan, I've seen the same problem and unfortunately have not found a >>> solution (my phone is new enough, I just haven't downloaded Quine). It's >>> kind of bizarre that Apple doesn't have a way to open an HTML file on your >>> phone (except in preview, which doesn't work since it doesn't have JS), >>> even though you have both a browser and a file storage area. >>> >>> In any case, you're probably going to want to be able to save changes to >>> the book to track your progress on the takeaways, so I'm not sure direct >>> access through Firefox would work out well for this use case anyway. >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 13, 2021 at 7:48:14 AM UTC-6 stan...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there some way to read the book on an old iPad? I have an *iPad >>>> mini 4, iOS 12.5*, so Quine 2 is not an option. I tried the >>>> simplistic approach of downloading the book using Firefox, but for the >>>> life >>>> of me, could not figure out how to load it to read the book. I also tried >>>> Safari, Firefox Focus, Dolphin (in desperation!) and finally went to >>>> sleep. A tablet version sans Quine 2 would be attractive - I don't want >>>> to >>>> take my Chromebook or one of my MacBook Airs to bed. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 11, 2021 at 4:39:24 AM UTC-5 ludwa6 wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Soren : Amazing piece of work, mate! I just downloaded it last night >>>>> on my iPad, fully expecting to nod-off in <15min (a nice fat eBook on >>>>> some >>>>> tech topic is my favourite form of sleeping pill :-)... But then the darn >>>>> thing kept me going *way* into the wee-hours, until i must either get up >>>>> and get working in TiddlyDesktop (had some trouble saving a local copy on >>>>> iPad via Quine2 [note1]), or else power-down somehow (which i finally >>>>> did... But it wasn't easy!). >>>>> >>>>> So i think it's fair to say -at least for those like me that already >>>>> quite into TiddlyWiki, but also with serious gaps in know-how, begging to >>>>> be filled- this book is a great resource, even in current form. To be >>>>> clear: this is no "5hi++y first draft" (as authors are advised these days >>>>> to call their first Request For Comments); it's a very broad and deep >>>>> treatment of the subject, organised by a guy who really knows the tool >>>>> and >>>>> how to use it to max advantage. Moreover: Soren brings some progressive >>>>> learning theory to the table, in the form of this "Takeways" feature >>>>> (i.e. >>>>> granular Q&A exercises in context) that really works. >>>>> >>>>> Check it out! >>>>> >>>>> /walt >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 12:59:27 PM UTC PMario wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> -as in my first post >>>>>> My github profile <https://github.com/pmario>contains an e-mail link >>>>>> -m >>>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 3:55:29 AM UTC+1 Soren Bjornstad >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a draft just about ready for review, but it looks like the >>>>>>> group as configured doesn't allow me to see the contact information of >>>>>>> anyone who posted. Could everyone who was interested in participating >>>>>>> please take 30 seconds to fill out this Google form with your email >>>>>>> address? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetcYknEP3bbJN38u1jpp2QJIHQUyhYArdc-ZQk7aSrQuqskA/viewform?usp=sf_link >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am looking at having this out to you all by the end of the week >>>>>>> and would love to have your feedback gathered in by early to mid-March. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> will email you with further details once you have filled out the form. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021 at 7:10:44 PM UTC-6 springa...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm an absolute beginner. I'd love to help proofread it if you >>>>>>>> still need volunteers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-4 Soren Bjornstad >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As the end of the year approaches and I start planning personal >>>>>>>>> goals for next year, I thought I'd share an early update on a project >>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>> really excited about and hope will be a boon for the TiddlyWiki >>>>>>>>> community: >>>>>>>>> a TiddlyWiki textbook (written in TiddlyWiki, of course). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Right now we have (mostly) good technical documentation for >>>>>>>>> advanced users, a thriving Google group, and plenty of introductions >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki, but nothing that bridges the gap by helping new users who >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> serious about learning the ins and outs of TiddlyWiki to build a >>>>>>>>> complete >>>>>>>>> understanding of TiddlyWiki concepts. That's what I'm hoping to fix. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One of the other things I'm excited about is my included prototype >>>>>>>>> of a mnemonic medium >>>>>>>>> <https://notes.andymatuschak.org/z4rRX3qwSSJRsEkdXKwH2shamgHNeRthrMLiF> >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> TiddlyWiki built on top of my TiddlyRemember plugin. This allows >>>>>>>>> simple >>>>>>>>> prompts to be embedded in the text, then reviewed at regular >>>>>>>>> intervals >>>>>>>>> controlled by a spaced-repetition algorithm, either with a simple >>>>>>>>> native-TiddlyWiki reviewer or in Anki <https://apps.ankiweb.net/> via >>>>>>>>> TiddlyRemember. With this medium, learning and retaining large >>>>>>>>> amounts of >>>>>>>>> new terminology and syntax is much easier. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Screenshot from 2020-12-30 17-08-30.png] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been working on this off and on for a few months and am >>>>>>>>> hoping that within the next month or two, I'll have a solid draft. At >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> point I would like to send this out to a handful of people for an >>>>>>>>> initial, >>>>>>>>> rigorous round of private review and feedback. I would like to >>>>>>>>> involve >>>>>>>>> several expert users and several beginners (I'd love to see 2-3 in >>>>>>>>> each >>>>>>>>> category). Here's what I'd hope to hear from these reviewers: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Experts: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - See any outright errors? I'm sure I made a few. >>>>>>>>> - Did I miss any concepts or features that you use all the >>>>>>>>> time or think are essential? >>>>>>>>> - For the resources at the end: What major resources or >>>>>>>>> plugins would be worth including that I don't know about or >>>>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>>>> included? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Beginners: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Did everything I wrote make sense? >>>>>>>>> - How well did the mnemonic medium work? Were the prompts >>>>>>>>> effective? Did you understand how to use it? >>>>>>>>> - Did your TiddlyWiki skills improve? >>>>>>>>> - Were the exercises too hard? Too easy? Lacking enough >>>>>>>>> information? >>>>>>>>> - Roughly how long did it take to work through the book? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would be looking for a commitment to read through the whole >>>>>>>>> book, ideally do most of the exercises, and offer substantive >>>>>>>>> feedback. The >>>>>>>>> book is currently about 70,000 words and includes plenty of >>>>>>>>> exercises, so >>>>>>>>> although I have no data on how long it will take to work through the >>>>>>>>> book >>>>>>>>> at this point, I can't imagine it would be a one-evening task. As >>>>>>>>> compensation, I can offer early access to the book, your name in the >>>>>>>>> acknowledgements, a $25 Amazon gift card (maybe more if there are >>>>>>>>> fewer >>>>>>>>> reviewers or I can cram it into my budget), and a huge thank-you to >>>>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>>>> who's willing to help out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you're interested in being involved when the time comes, please >>>>>>>>> let me know here or by emailing contact at sorenbjornstad.com. If >>>>>>>>> your ability to help out depends on the timeline, please let me know >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> I'll see what I can do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/e49e6bcf-aa2a-417e-833d-8e376af49c8bn%40googlegroups.com.
