Yes. Sí to si. I don't know what he was saying, either. And before Roam showed us what links could do, the focus in TiddlyWiki was on tagging, as judging from the number of entries on tagging in the toolmap. Roam opened our eyes to something that was there all along but underutilized. On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 6:33:49 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
> TiddlyTweeter wrote: > >> Right. And it is not useful. Roam's main USP is insipid as it has been >> done before. >> "Backlinks" are an ancient strategy. >> > > I am aware that backlinks have existed since Ted Nelson's original > conception of hypertext. However I had never seen backlinks implemented in > the way that they are in Roam - with transcluding context to allow for the > implicit definition of new notes. I'm not saying there weren't other > examples (maybe you could give one?), just that I had never seen it before, > and was thus happy to discover a new approach. > > People in the past could think too. And did it too. And do. WITHOUT Roam. >> > > I am not sure what you are trying to say? People can also think without > TiddlyWiki. And computers. And writing. It doesn't mean that they aren't > useful tools. > > RIGHT. And it is usage that matters. Stroll is an INSTANCE of TW as it is >> ALREADY, to do that. >> >> My point is TW NATIVELY already supports backlinks and every other >> linkage mode already. >> >> We need to not have to rediscover our own tool through paid-for clones >> wafting-off. >> > > When David first shared Roam, and rolled out Stroll, I thought the same > thing - I can add backlinks to the bottom of every tiddler in 30 seconds, > why does this need to be a new edition? It wasn't until I watched a few > Roam demos that I realised that Backlinks were being used in a way that was > totally new to me. > > In general I think that you are in confusing the ability to implement an > idea with the idea itself. I implemented Roam-style backlinks in my wiki > with very little effort, but I would never have had the idea to do it > without seeing Roam. I had never seen anyone else do it that way before, > and I am happy to discover a new approach even if it comes from a > commercial tool that over-hypes itself. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3225b497-af53-4e08-870c-f7d258d99a04n%40googlegroups.com.
