@si - I did a quickie here.  I am sitting at my MacBook Air (11in, 
Mojave).  Followed your instructions and had no problems reordering the 
"open" list.  I did not have to be careful about dragging the link - in 
fact, I made a point of dragging at an angle and didn't have a problem. 
I've been able to do this several times now.   I did not experience the 
horizontal/vertical problem that Soren described. 

Stan

On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:57:02 AM UTC-5 si wrote:

> @Stan I don't think its a Windows problem, because IIR Soren doesn't use 
> Windows. There's not much to add in the way of instructions:
>
> 1. Open Vivaldi and go to tiddlywiki.com
> 2. Click on one of the links in the "open" tab, and try to drag-and-drop 
> to reorder them. I find that it only works if I am careful to drag the link 
> on a strictly vertical plane. If Idrag it slightly to the side it doesn't 
> work. Same is true for other lists, like the ones you get when you click on 
> tag pills.
>
> This seems to happen in any wiki that I try.
>
> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 13:45:22 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the additional detail, si.  Now I understand your problem 
>> better - I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations.   I will 
>> have to try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the behavior.  
>>  Can you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out Windows 
>> as being part of the problem. 
>>
>> You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave.  I dropped Brave 
>> as there were too many times when button activation didn't work.   
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows 10 
>>> and Timimi.
>>>
>>> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or 
>>> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi to 
>>> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop 
>>> here" item anyway. 
>>>
>>> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that often I 
>>> am dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting some of the 
>>> text because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the highlighted 
>>> text. This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the title ("<div 
>>> class=......etc").
>>>
>>> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many 
>>> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the Kookma 
>>> library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission.  However, I could drag and drop 
>>> the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW.  I have TW on Gitlab and Tiddlyhost, 
>>> with no drag and drop problems.
>>>
>>> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via 
>>> drag-and-drop, I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like when 
>>> clicking on a tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost though.
>>>
>>> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi?
>>>
>>> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It 
>>> seems like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought it 
>>> was still based on Chromium.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that 
>>>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so never 
>>>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either.
>>>>
>>>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or 
>>>> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi to 
>>>> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop 
>>>> here" item anyway.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>, 
>>>>> and I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work 
>>>>> properly. If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try to 
>>>>> drag 
>>>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some 
>>>>> crazy 
>>>>> html as the title.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it has 
>>>>> some nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix out 
>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>

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