I’ve tested on both Mac (Catalina) and Manjaro Linux.
I seem to be able to reorder things in a drag-and-drop list (e.g., a
tag pill) as long as I start my drag from the right of the text. If I
grab the text, then sometimes I get an an HTML dump showing up in the
list. But I can’t make it happen consistently. Like Stan, I was also
not able to find a problem with dragging in the open list specifically, but
I *do* have the horizontal/vertical problem on both machines.
I tested again and this time I was able to copy a tiddler between wikis by
dragging and dropping into a different tab. I’d thought I wasn’t able to do
that before either, but evidently that was wrong.
On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 10:19:44 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
> @Stan OK thanks. I just tried updating the newest Vivaldi but the
> behaviour I described remains. Hopefully someone else will see this thread
> and give it a try so we can get more info.
>
> @Soren What OS did you use to test it?
> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 14:21:04 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @si - I did a quickie here. I am sitting at my MacBook Air (11in,
>> Mojave). Followed your instructions and had no problems reordering the
>> "open" list. I did not have to be careful about dragging the link - in
>> fact, I made a point of dragging at an angle and didn't have a problem.
>> I've been able to do this several times now. I did not experience the
>> horizontal/vertical problem that Soren described.
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:57:02 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>
>>> @Stan I don't think its a Windows problem, because IIR Soren doesn't use
>>> Windows. There's not much to add in the way of instructions:
>>>
>>> 1. Open Vivaldi and go to tiddlywiki.com
>>> 2. Click on one of the links in the "open" tab, and try to drag-and-drop
>>> to reorder them. I find that it only works if I am careful to drag the link
>>> on a strictly vertical plane. If Idrag it slightly to the side it doesn't
>>> work. Same is true for other lists, like the ones you get when you click on
>>> tag pills.
>>>
>>> This seems to happen in any wiki that I try.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 13:45:22 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the additional detail, si. Now I understand your problem
>>>> better - I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations. I will
>>>> have to try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the behavior.
>>>>
>>>> Can you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out
>>>> Windows
>>>> as being part of the problem.
>>>>
>>>> You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave. I dropped
>>>> Brave as there were too many times when button activation didn't work.
>>>>
>>>> Stan
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows
>>>>> 10 and Timimi.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up
>>>>> or down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi
>>>>> to start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop
>>>>> here" item anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that often
>>>>> I am dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting some of
>>>>> the
>>>>> text because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the highlighted
>>>>> text. This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the title ("<div
>>>>> class=......etc").
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many
>>>>> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the
>>>>> Kookma library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission. However, I could drag
>>>>> and drop the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW. I have TW on Gitlab and
>>>>> Tiddlyhost, with no drag and drop problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via
>>>>> drag-and-drop, I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like
>>>>> when
>>>>> clicking on a tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost though.
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It
>>>>> seems like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought
>>>>> it
>>>>> was still based on Chromium.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that
>>>>>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up or
>>>>>> down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get Vivaldi
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the "drop
>>>>>> here" item anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>,
>>>>>>> and I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work
>>>>>>> properly. If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try to
>>>>>>> drag
>>>>>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some
>>>>>>> crazy
>>>>>>> html as the title.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it has
>>>>>>> some nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix out
>>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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