So very strange. I was wondering what was captured as a mouse event. What
I've been trying, say with the open list, is to try a long press on a ink
and then trying to move it. I can move any of the links
left/right/vertically/diagonally without an issue. I wish I could help.
I have a Lenovo T440 Windows 10 laptop in my home office downstairs that I
will have to set up, try and report back.
Stan
On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
> I guess usually just a fraction of a second, but trying varying lengths
> just now it doesn't seem to affect the behaviour in any way.
>
> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 16:30:12 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @si, I am curious about something -- how long do you hold down the mouse
>> key before you drag and drop? I can get different behaviors depending on
>> the amount of time I hold the key pressed before dragging.
>>
>> I'm grasping at straws, you know.
>>
>> I am running Vivaldi 3.6.2165.40 (Stable channel) (x86_64)
>>
>> Stan
>>
>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 11:19:44 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>
>>> @Stan OK thanks. I just tried updating the newest Vivaldi but the
>>> behaviour I described remains. Hopefully someone else will see this thread
>>> and give it a try so we can get more info.
>>>
>>> @Soren What OS did you use to test it?
>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 14:21:04 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> @si - I did a quickie here. I am sitting at my MacBook Air (11in,
>>>> Mojave). Followed your instructions and had no problems reordering the
>>>> "open" list. I did not have to be careful about dragging the link - in
>>>> fact, I made a point of dragging at an angle and didn't have a problem.
>>>> I've been able to do this several times now. I did not experience the
>>>> horizontal/vertical problem that Soren described.
>>>>
>>>> Stan
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:57:02 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Stan I don't think its a Windows problem, because IIR Soren doesn't
>>>>> use Windows. There's not much to add in the way of instructions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Open Vivaldi and go to tiddlywiki.com
>>>>> 2. Click on one of the links in the "open" tab, and try to
>>>>> drag-and-drop to reorder them. I find that it only works if I am careful
>>>>> to
>>>>> drag the link on a strictly vertical plane. If Idrag it slightly to the
>>>>> side it doesn't work. Same is true for other lists, like the ones you get
>>>>> when you click on tag pills.
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems to happen in any wiki that I try.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 13:45:22 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the additional detail, si. Now I understand your problem
>>>>>> better - I thought the issue was drag and drop for installations. I
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> have to try out re-ordering a list to see if I can reproduce the
>>>>>> behavior.
>>>>>> Can you easily provide example instructions? Maybe we can rule out
>>>>>> Windows
>>>>>> as being part of the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are right, Vivaldi is based on Chrome, as is Brave. I dropped
>>>>>> Brave as there were too many times when button activation didn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 8:35:31 AM UTC-5 si wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the replies. I forgot to mention that I'm running Windows
>>>>>>> 10 and Timimi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an
>>>>>>> up or down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get
>>>>>>> Vivaldi to start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "drop here" item anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Soren I hadn't noticed this but yeah your right. It seems that
>>>>>>> often I am dragging slightly to the side, inadvertently highlighting
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> of the text because the mechanism isn't working, then dragging the
>>>>>>> highlighted text. This creates a tiddler with a bunch of html in the
>>>>>>> title
>>>>>>> ("<div class=......etc").
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>The peculiar thing is that I have been able to drag and drop many
>>>>>>> plugins, *except* that I have not been able to drag and drop the
>>>>>>> Kookma library to a Tiddlywiki hosted on Fission. However, I could
>>>>>>> drag
>>>>>>> and drop the Shiraz plugin to the Fission TW. I have TW on Gitlab and
>>>>>>> Tiddlyhost, with no drag and drop problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Stan I don't have any problems with installing plugins via
>>>>>>> drag-and-drop, I'm only noticing problems with re-ordering lists (like
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> clicking on a tag pill). I've not run TW on Fission or Tiddlyhost
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>> Do you have any extensions running on Vivaldi?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do but tried it with a blank profile and the problem persists. It
>>>>>>> seems like there's just something weird about Vivaldi, though I thought
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was still based on Chromium.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, 13 March 2021 at 00:34:43 UTC Soren Bjornstad wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never used Vivaldi with TW because I have other plugins that
>>>>>>>> interfere with TW, so I've always done TW in a separate browser – so
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> noticed this before. But on checking, it does not work for me either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've found that at least on my machine, you have to drag in an up
>>>>>>>> or down direction, rather than a left and right direction, to get
>>>>>>>> Vivaldi
>>>>>>>> to start dragging at all...but then it usually does not display the
>>>>>>>> "drop
>>>>>>>> here" item anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Friday, March 12, 2021 at 9:27:20 AM UTC-6 si wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I recently went back to the Vivaldi browser <https://vivaldi.com/>,
>>>>>>>>> and I noticed that drag-and-drop functions of TiddlyWiki don't work
>>>>>>>>> properly. If you go the "Open" tab (or click on a tag pill) and try
>>>>>>>>> to drag
>>>>>>>>> something, it either doesn't work or creates a new tiddler with some
>>>>>>>>> crazy
>>>>>>>>> html as the title.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone else get this with Vivaldi? It's a shame because it
>>>>>>>>> has some nice TW-friendly features, so I wondered if there was a fix
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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