That's a new one on me, Anders; will give that plugin a try -thanks! /w On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:59:09 PM UTC+1 Anjar wrote:
> Hi Walt, > > It should be trivial to modify the permalink button to produce links as > https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]] but the creation > time is not guaranteed to be unique (the link will then open both tiddlers, > so no harm is done), although in practice it usually will be > > An alternative is to make the permalink button add the current title to a > separate field (say permalink) and use that field to produce a URL like > https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[permalink[aReadableTitle]] > <https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]]> The strength is > that the URL then will be human-readable and you have the history of old > titles, but again, it is not guaranteed to be unique > > If you are not afraid to add plugins, there is a plugin ( > https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/index.html#UUID%20Plugin) > > to create UUIDs that can also be used to populate a separate field to get > URLs like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[uuid[anUUID]] > <https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]]> > > Best, > Anders > > onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 15:50:00 UTC+2 skrev TiddlyTweeter: > >> Ciao cj.v..., >> >> Interesting! >> Functionally that is working like a SURROGATE permanent REDIRECT. *It is >> a clever solution!* but requires the logic of the Wiki to change >> considerably and its owner to know what to do. :-) >> >> HOW, for instance, do you quickly generate a PERMALINK you can quickly >> post online? >> >> Probing :-) >> TT >> >> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 15:43:16 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> G'day walt, >>> >>> That is a huge pain point for me. In my previous career, I relied >>> heavily on the ProjectForum Wiki to keep track of everything. It did not >>> use page names in URL links, but rather used auto-generated unique >>> identifiers. So I could change page titles to my heart's content, knowing >>> that URL links were always stable. >>> >>> My approach, still formulating it, is to edit tiddlers via custom >>> forms. The tiddlers have auto-generated unique identifiers stored in the >>> title. What would normally be the title goes in a field. >>> >>> That works fine right as-is for structured data. I haven't looked into >>> setting up the formatting buttons (bold, italics, etc.) for formatting text. >>> >>> I think this could still work for you well if you have an easy way to >>> lookup tiddlers via a field instead of via title, and if you can overcome >>> that mindset change. >>> >>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:34:24 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote: >>> >>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data >>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i >>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, >>>> without >>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks? >>>> >>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW architecture- >>>> since, as PMario explained in last thread >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, >>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, i >>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate >>>> the >>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO: >>>> >>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some >>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like >>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the >>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and >>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does >>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective. >>>> >>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder? If so, i'd like to >>>> do what i can to help make it happen! >>>> >>>> /walt >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b175fa06-e657-4b71-94a8-35d7a5e5e81an%40googlegroups.com.