That's a new one on me, Anders; will give that plugin a try -thanks!  /w

On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:59:09 PM UTC+1 Anjar wrote:

> Hi Walt,
>
> It should be trivial to modify the permalink button to produce links as 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]] but the creation 
> time is not guaranteed to be unique (the link will then open both tiddlers, 
> so no harm is done), although in practice it usually will be
>
> An alternative is to make the permalink button add the current title to a 
> separate field (say permalink) and use that field to produce a URL like 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[permalink[aReadableTitle]] 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]]> The strength is 
> that the URL then will be human-readable and you have the history of old 
> titles, but again, it is not guaranteed to be unique
>
> If you are not afraid to add plugins, there is a plugin (
> https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/pluginsandmacros/index.html#UUID%20Plugin)
>  
> to create UUIDs that can also be used to populate a separate field to get 
> URLs like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[uuid[anUUID]] 
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]]>
>
> Best,
> Anders
>
> onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 15:50:00 UTC+2 skrev TiddlyTweeter:
>
>> Ciao cj.v..., 
>>
>> Interesting! 
>> Functionally that is working like a SURROGATE permanent REDIRECT. *It is 
>> a clever solution!* but requires the logic of the Wiki to change 
>> considerably and its owner to know what to do. :-)
>>
>> HOW, for instance, do you quickly generate a PERMALINK you can quickly 
>> post online?
>>
>> Probing :-)
>> TT
>>
>> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 15:43:16 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> G'day walt,
>>>
>>> That is a huge pain point for me.  In my previous career, I relied 
>>> heavily on the ProjectForum Wiki to keep track of everything.  It did not 
>>> use page names in URL links, but rather used auto-generated unique 
>>> identifiers.  So I could change page titles to my heart's content, knowing 
>>> that URL links were always stable.
>>>
>>> My approach, still formulating it, is to edit tiddlers via custom 
>>> forms.  The tiddlers have auto-generated unique identifiers stored in the 
>>> title.  What would normally be the title goes in a field.
>>>
>>> That works fine right as-is for structured data.  I haven't looked into 
>>> setting up the formatting buttons (bold, italics, etc.) for formatting text.
>>>
>>> I think this could still work for you well if you have an easy way to 
>>> lookup tiddlers via a field instead of via title, and if you can overcome 
>>> that mindset change.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 5:34:24 AM UTC-3 ludwa6 wrote:
>>>
>>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data 
>>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i 
>>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, 
>>>> without 
>>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks?  
>>>>
>>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW architecture- 
>>>> since, as PMario explained in last thread 
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, 
>>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, i 
>>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate 
>>>> the 
>>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO:
>>>>
>>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some 
>>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like 
>>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the 
>>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and 
>>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does 
>>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective.
>>>>
>>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder?  If so, i'd like to 
>>>> do what i can to help make it happen!
>>>>
>>>> /walt
>>>>
>>>>

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