Flanc

Just some thoughts while you are working on this.


   - As I hinted at before, in a similar manner to changing language or 
   issuing commands I would love to be able to "OK tiddlywiki" from a 
   listening state. Apart from the fact is allows a keyword activation it does 
   celebrate the integration of these tools with tiddlywiki and in somways 
   "personifies" tiddlywiki. 
   - I am not sure if you noticed yet but even having a keyword entry can 
   cause problems. I have heard both Siri and Google start responding out of 
   context when they have misheard and they have activation phrases. I imagine 
   a stop word would be good too, for when someone enters the room.
   - My thoughts would be if in a edit text field transcribe there, if not 
   create the new tiddler and transcribe in there. The button activation would 
   be an alternative to "OK Tiddlywiki" when this is inactive.

In a recent post I am also looking at a UI addition of indicators, Thus you 
could leverage this with a tiddler tagged "$:/tags/indicator" to display 
listening or dictation states as well as a trigger in a diminutive icon on 
the side bar or other locations like the menu bar. All you need do is 
create the matching button/indicators.

Regards
Tones
On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 09:55:56 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> If while learning a language or practicing translation;
>
> We could speak words out loud in the language we are learning and get 
> immediate feedback, in that language, and translated to our own language, 
> it would be a way to practice without exposing ourselves in front of 
> others. If the translator recognises our words then perhaps we know how to 
> speak?
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Thursday, 12 August 2021 at 01:50:55 UTC+10 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The NATO Phonetic Alphabet is a great example of something that may never 
>> be implemented as part of the plug-in, but could easily be achieved by 
>> custom commands! 
>>
>> I think there’s just so much flexibility with the plug-in to do new and 
>> amazing things, so I really love when people like @R2 give ideas like that! 
>>
>> BurningTreeC and I will continue to make these crazy ideas a reality, as 
>> we have been doing! 
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 10:46 AM BurningTreeC <hypnotize...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi @R² ... I kinda like the idea of the NATO phonetic alphabet :)
>>>
>>> flanc...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 15:33:06 
>>> UTC+2:
>>>
>>>> I know I’ve said it so many times already, but thank you so much for 
>>>> your support! This is truly the first GitHub project that I’ve had this 
>>>> many users for, and I along with BTC intend to keep the plug-in updated 
>>>> and 
>>>> always cutting-edge in features! 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:26 AM strikke...@gmail.com <
>>>> strikke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @flanc, I tested it once more- after importing the danish language 
>>>>> plugin and it did write some sentences correct...and some rather amusing. 
>>>>> It will be very useable though. In fact it is much better than I had 
>>>>> hoped 
>>>>> for, Danish being used by so few people. So nice, I know I will use this 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> lot. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you so much for all the work you and BurningTreeC are doing on 
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 3:03:56 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> @Strikke…, yes. Any language shown on the demo is theoretically be 
>>>>>> supported by the plug-in. I’m not sure if there is a Danish translation 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> TW. With my new idea to just use the TW language, there may be some 
>>>>>> limitation. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 9:01 AM strikke...@gmail.com <
>>>>>> strikke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi flanc,
>>>>>>> I followed the link to Web Speech API 
>>>>>>> <http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/speech-api/raw-file/tip/speechapi.html> 
>>>>>>> Demonstration. 
>>>>>>> Danish can be used, will it also be possible to use it using your 
>>>>>>> plugin 
>>>>>>> with Danish?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Birthe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 2:11:12 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love the feedback! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Something to do with the language names. Each of those language 
>>>>>>>> names were decided rather carefully, since, for example, catalan was 
>>>>>>>> understood in a different word every time, but the word "catalonian" 
>>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>>> transcribed with perfect accuracy. One possible solution would be to 
>>>>>>>> test 
>>>>>>>> for a variety of different words that sound like the keyword, similar 
>>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>>> what BTC did with the new "Ok Wiki" functionality, and that would 
>>>>>>>> require 
>>>>>>>> you awesome folks to test the words, and report back what they are 
>>>>>>>> transcribed as.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In addition to this, I forgot to add, there are multiple variants 
>>>>>>>> of several languages, such as english US, UK, Australian, South 
>>>>>>>> African; 
>>>>>>>> spanish Spain, etc. etc. I plan to add all of this functionality 
>>>>>>>> sometime 
>>>>>>>> soon, as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For all of the languages the API supports that my little wrapper 
>>>>>>>> program could easily be changed to modify, they are listed in this 
>>>>>>>> StackOverflow post: https://stackoverflow.com/a/23733589/14719982. 
>>>>>>>> Feel free to speak the translated language names into the plugin, and 
>>>>>>>> see 
>>>>>>>> what they are transcribed as.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Since the default lang I have set is English-US, the language 
>>>>>>>> names must sadly be translated into English to be understood, such as 
>>>>>>>> Espanol to Spanish. This also accounts for maybe "improper" languages 
>>>>>>>> names, as pointed out.)
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 4:41:54 AM UTC-4 BurningTreeC 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all, I've now changed the *Command *command to *Ok Wiki*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've made it also detect Okay Vicky, Ok WC, and more keywords ... 
>>>>>>>>> If those of you who are testing this would report any other keywords 
>>>>>>>>> we 
>>>>>>>>> should add, that would be a great help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What should work right now is *Ok Wiki change language to 
>>>>>>>>> <<language>> *and *Ok Wiki stop talking*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TiddlyTweeter schrieb am Mittwoch, 11. August 2021 um 10:28:45 
>>>>>>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ciao Flanc... & BTC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *SIDE NOTES ON API BEHAVIOR*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This does not effect anything YOU two are doing. Merely 
>>>>>>>>>> observations on the "behaviours" of the recognitions. 
>>>>>>>>>> But I do think it is useful to understand the end-product the API 
>>>>>>>>>> issues forth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *1 -* There are occasional QUIRKY things that happen that have 
>>>>>>>>>> no clear rationale. For instance if you dictate "cat dog mouse 
>>>>>>>>>> horse" you 
>>>>>>>>>> get back ... "cat dog Mouse horse". Maybe mice, or mouses, 
>>>>>>>>>> actually rule the universe as "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy" 
>>>>>>>>>> contended"? 
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/1MmQjXrkwp98jNdc17j3tr3/mice>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *2 -* Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are 
>>>>>>>>>> simply DISCARDED. (For instance in Italian mode most dictated 
>>>>>>>>>> English words 
>>>>>>>>>> are just ignored).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *3 - * Sometimes words that are not understood by the api are 
>>>>>>>>>> capitalized as Proper Names. There is some very clever thing going 
>>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>>> inside the recog. machine that decides when to do this.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> None of these minor points change anything other than the need to 
>>>>>>>>>> be slightly aware the API does stuff and awareness of that is 
>>>>>>>>>> helpful I 
>>>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll may add more comments about these behaviors after I used it 
>>>>>>>>>> more, if there any other obvious ones. 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>>>>>> TT
>>>>>>>>>>
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